| ▲ | Induane 3 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Relentless striving without any kind of real meaning isn't healthy. Even people who aren't deeply Christian in the religious sense are still inherited of much of the values. I.E. people must prove their value via an extraordinary work ethic. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | justonceokay 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I would argue that individualism is the root, more than the work ethic. I’m someone with a 50th percentile work ethic but a 99th percentile focus on community. I only have so much energy, but I make sure I reserve a good portion of it (say, at least 30%) on acts that have no “direct” benefit to me at all. Hosting a party and not worrying if the invitee’s contributions are equitable. Paying a nephews rent for a month so he can travel. Mowing the yard for a neighbor in need. Buying presents for people I see 2x a year. Calling up a distant friend just to remind them how much I like them. Friendship and community are harder work than your job, because no one makes you do it. It pays off in peculiar ways many years later, if ever at all. It’s senseless effort, but only figuratively. The returns I get are incalculable, but only literally. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | ordinaryradical 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Christian orthodoxy begins with the assertion you cannot ever work hard enough to be made right with God but that your value is imputed by Christ’s death and never once earned. See also: the imago dei. What you’re describing is not “Christian values” but the famed “Protestant work ethic,” a product of puritan immigrants fleeing European discrimination. That ethic is Christian in source but when divorced from the knowledge that God makes you worthy—not your productivity— you begin the long slide into hustle culture, greed, and other current miseries. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | ARandomerDude 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> people must prove their value via an extraordinary work ethic Ironically, this is the literal opposite of Christianity. Christianity in a nutshell is "Jesus saves people because we are incapable of saving ourselves." | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | JKCalhoun 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Or, not a popular opinion, as a country we had a kind of solidarity when things were universally tough. For me (I'm old enough) that was the 1970's with inflation, the Iran hostage situation… During that Bicentennial I remember the country pulling together more. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | amunozo 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
More Protestant than Christian. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | metalliqaz 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I wouldn't call that 'Christian'. The 'extraordinary work ethic' exists in Japan, too. Not very Christian over there. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | reactordev 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think that’s only one aspect, the other is the economics make it so you have to be extraordinary to live ordinary. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | intended 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Striving without meaning being unhealthy is always true. As per the article, for some reason, Americans became unhappy across all groupings, post 2020. Its possible that some sub groups of people learned that work from home gave them more meaning than the rat race. For it to be true across the board? That creates a huge burden of proof. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||