The solution is pretty straight forward.

Fine should be scaled to your income and have an escalating multiplier for reoffense within the same category of offense with a cool down period of a few years if they don't break the law.

I've brought this up many times online and people usually reply with something like "lots of people who have no income on paper but are wealthy speed" and a recent solution that I've seen posted is to scale the fine to the value of the vehicle.

Quite often fines are a pretty limp and ineffective way of modulating an individual's behaviour which is ultimately a choice by society.

We can make a better choice there to induce the behaviour that we want from antisocial people.

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Tade0 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> escalating multiplier for reoffense within the same category of offense with a cool down period of a few years if they don't break the law.

My country - Poland - implemented this part a couple of years ago. Specifically a reoffense in the same category within two years results in a higher tier fine - about twice the usual amount. Fines were also adjusted for inflation after over 20 years of being nominally the same.

The rate of cars passing me doing 180km/h+, so 40km/h+ above the local 140km/h limit, fell drastically.

Particularly speeding cars in poor condition (like dangling linkages etc.) vanished. Nobody wants a ticket that's worth more than the car.

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kennywinker 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Jesus christ, 140kph?!? That’s fast. Max speed limit where i live is 120kph and that feels too fast for most roads.

	▲	Tade0 an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It was increased from 130km/h in the 21st century. What's surprising/weird/hilarious is the traffic fatality rate before and after the change: https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/Poland/mortality_traffic_ac... I'll let you google when that was so as not to spoil it.
	▲	keddad 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		It's really not, especially on a highway. Makes me sad to read about more and more speed restrictions - there is nothing wrong with those in areas there cars and pedestrians cross, but seeing a highway with a 110 (or sometimes even 80) speed limit just feels stupid. Sometimes I'm happy to live in a place with relatively modest speeding fines (also, you have to speed A LOT to loose your license over it, it's a very rare occasion).
	▲	singron an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		For Americans, 120 kph is ~75mph and 140kph is ~85mph. I think there is a single road in the US with an 85 speed limit, and only some states use 75-80.

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toast0 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> a recent solution that I've seen posted is to scale the fine to the value of the vehicle.

Sweet. My vanagon has a license to speed... not on highways though, it can barely hit the speedlimit.