| ▲ | 1024kb 4 hours ago |
| I had a really bad experience with the bitwarden cli. I believe it was `bw list` that I ran, assuming it would list the names of all my passwords, but too my surprise, it listed everything, including passwords and current totp codes. That's not the worst of it though. For some reason, when I ssh'ed into one of my servers and opened tmux, where I keep a weechat irc client running, I noticed that the entire content of the bw command was accessible from within the weechat text input field history. I have no idea how this happened, but it was quite terrifying. The issue persisted across tmux and weechat sessions, and only a reboot of the server would solve the problem. I promptly removed the bw cli programme after that, and I definitely won't be installing it again. I use ghostty if it matters. |
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| ▲ | stvnbn 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I love how the first comment is a complain having nothing to do with the actual subjec |
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| ▲ | epistasis 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Password managers are all about trust, the main link is about a compromise, so it's not surprising that the first comment is also about trust too, even if it's not directly about this particular compromise. I found the default bwcli clunky and unacceptable, and it's why I don't use it, even though I still have a BitWarden subscription. | | |
| ▲ | harshreality an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Where's the evidence that 1024kb's issue had anything to do with bw? How is that vaguely recalled anecdote a trust issue with bw? It was probably caused by accidentally copying something to the clipboard or some other buffer which was then transferred via ssh and imported into weechat, possibly with the help of custom terminal, ssh, tmux, or weechat settings making it too easy for data to be slung around like that. I can't think of a plausible explanation for how bw is at fault for its terminal output ending up, across a ssh session and tmux invocation, in the chat history of weechat. Even if bw auto-copied its output to the clipboard (which as far as I could tell by glancing at the cli options, it doesn't and can't), and the clipboard is auto-copied to remote hosts, clipboard contents shouldn't appear in an irc client's history without explicit hacking to do that. The claim is just noise, particularly because it doesn't seem to have ever been investigated. It seems prudent, if someone wants to use a cli, to use rbw rather than bw, or even just pass or keypassxc-cli (and self-managed cloud backup or syncing). However, that's based on bw being a javascript mess, not based on the unlikely event of bw injecting its output through ssh into irc clients. | |
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| ▲ | cobolcomesback 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Not to mention utter nonsense. There’s no possible way that BW CLI somehow injected command history into a remote server. That was 100% something the GP did, a bug in their terminal, or a config they have with ssh/tmux, not Bitwarden. | | |
| ▲ | reactordev 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | that's our future... with AI. Engineers that don't know the difference between client-side convenience and server-side injection, how to configure `php.ini`, or that no synchronized password manager is safe. While the OAuth scope is `*`, and CORS is what you drink on the weekend. | | |
| ▲ | lxgr 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | We've had all those well before AI. > no synchronized password manager is safe Care to elaborate? I'd agree that the security/availability tradeoff is different, but "not safe" is as nonsensical a blanket statement as "all/only offline/paper-based/... password managers are safe". | |
| ▲ | Sohcahtoa82 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Can someone explain why people struggle with CORS? The full strength of the SOP applies by default. CORS is an insecurity feature that relaxes the SOP. Unless you need to relax the SOP, you shouldn't be enabling CORS, meaning you shouldn't be sending an Access-Control-Allow-Origin header at all. If your front-end at www.example.com makes calls to api.example.com, then it's simple enough to just add www.example.com to CORS. |
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| ▲ | nicce 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I thought that CLI would be efficent when I looked for using it and then I figured it is JavaScript |
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| ▲ | rvz 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Exactly. That is the problem. There is a time and place for where it makes sense and a password manager CLI written in TypeScript importing hundreds of third-party packages is a direct red flag. It is a frequent occurrence. We have seen it happen with Axios which is one of the biggest supply chain attacks on the Javascript / Typescript ecosystem and it makes no sense to build sensitive tools with that. | | |
| ▲ | lxgr 18 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > importing hundreds of third-party packages But how else are you going to check if a number is even or odd? Remember, the ONLY design goal is not repeating yourself (or in fact anything anyone has ever thought of implementing). |
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| ▲ | trinsic2 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Wow. Thats crazy. Is there an extension for bwcli in weechat? BTW I didnt even know BW had a cli until now. I use keepass locally. |
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| ▲ | harshreality 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's crazy because it's not default bw behavior, or even any bw behavior... I don't use the cli, but I don't see any built-in capacity to copy bw output to the clipboard. (In the UNIX way, you'd normally pipe it to a clipboard utility if you wanted it copied, and then the security consequences are on you.) They probably caused it themselves, somehow, and then blamed bitwarden. Note in the original comment they aren't even entirely sure what the command was, and they weren't familiar with it or they wouldn't have been surprised by its output... so how can they be sure what else they did between that command and the weechat thing? If the terminal or tmux fed terminal history into weechat, that's also not bw's problem. | | | |
| ▲ | 1024kb 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don't know, I use a vanilla weechat setup |
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