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rogermungo 4 hours ago

I suppose I'd rather the US wins AI as opposed to, say, China

sunaurus 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Realistically I am starting to think China would be more responsible with it than the US.

CharlieDigital 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The US no longer feels like a place where the rule of law applies.

For whatever you want to fault China with (human rights, personal freedoms, etc.), there is at least the facade of rule of law.

US is masks off and not even a thin veneer that rule of law applies any more.

davidgf 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you're an US citizen, I would understand why. If you're from elsewhere, looking at how both countries deal with foreign policies, perhaps the answer requires some serious reflection.

malka1986 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm from the EU.

I'd rather China wins this. By a landslide.

I cant wait for the EU finally turns its back on the US and start integrating seriously with China.

cyanydeez 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, there's nothing about the current America I want to "win" AI; nor the people leading it.

I'm sure China has the same type of leadership, but they've yet to threaten to nuke a whole civilization.

Obviously, we want to be in the middle between what America represents and China, and that's currently Europe.

pjc50 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The real winner in this subthread: negative polarization. It's kind of incredible to watch. Show people two actors, point out the bad things one has done, and they instantly apply "enemy of my enemy is my friend" logic and turn into China boosters. Without even considering that there might be, say, other options.

China provides some great manufactured goods (I may well buy a Chinese car) and runs an ordered society with clean streets and good public transport. But because it doesn't have a free press, you and I (and most Chinese citizens) can't see what the downsides are. They're politely but firmly swept under the rug. And if you get on the wrong side of the "ordered society", it can go very badly for you.

Perhaps the real lesson is how the American right have so successfully poisoned the idea of competitive politics and free speech that a literal one party state looks better than .. whatever the hell is going on over there. People would opt to give up their right to politics simply in order to not be subjected to politics.

(remember how Mao recruited the first few Communists effectively one village at a time? The tradeoff was paying taxes to them rather than the Emperor, and if any imperial tax collectors wandered in to ask the rebels would deal with them. A common model for effective revolutions. But it absolutely hinges on being able to deliver better material conditions.)

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