| ▲ | varun_ch 3 hours ago |
| This makes me wonder: Cellebrite makes tools for law enforcement to break into iPhones, likely exploiting weaknesses/vulnerabilities. Does Apple buy Cellebrite’s tools and reverse engineer them? Or would they not have a way of acquiring them legally? |
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| ▲ | kstrauser 31 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| I can’t imagine a scenario where Apple couldn’t legally buy them on the grey market. I can imagine it being illegal to sell them, like contractual restrictions blocking purchasers from reselling them. But short of the tools being a munition or controlled substance, you can buy whatever you want. |
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| ▲ | saagarjha 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Cellebrite sells their lower-level devices to Apple directly for things like data transfer at Apple Stores. The ones above that are unlikely to be sold to Apple. |
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| ▲ | tredre3 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > Cellebrite sells their lower-level devices to Apple directly for things like data transfer at Apple Stores. Please substantiate that claim. Why would Apple need mystical third party devices to transfer data? They've designed both the user devices and the software, and they're both capable of exchanging data, and I'm sure Apple can do even more once they put the devices in diagnostic mode. What am I missing? What is Cellebrite providing here? | | |
| ▲ | avianlyric an hour ago | parent [-] | | Because it’s a pain in the arse to design, manufacture and build a specialist device just for use in your stores. I’m sure Apple could do everything that box does and more. But why bother designing, building and manufacturing your own specialist device when someone else already sells a perfectly good tool that does the job. Don’t forget this is for use in a retail store by people who will have been given 5mins training on how to use the device. You want something that just requires a person to plug two phones in and hit a big “go” button. And it needs to work 99% of the time with zero messing around. |
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| ▲ | jrflowers an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Do you have a link that talks about this in more detail? |
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| ▲ | bilbo0s 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I bet Apple has access to Mythos now. Not saying they should use it to reverse engineer hacking tools. Just saying they have access to Mythos now. |
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