| ▲ | kakacik 5 days ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||
At this point, any US company's products on software and hardware side can be safely considered an espionage asset. Even ignoring well known things like intercepting international packages during transit and putting malware into them. Same goes obviously for ie Chinese stuff, but I don't think you guys realize how for outsider the border between China and US in terms of morality is practically non-existent now. I don't mean it in any snarky way, just looking at facts. Also, China doesn't invade countries half around the world and bring them to utter destruction and misery for generations to come, killing thousands to millions of civilians and creating breeding grounds for things like ISIS. They do their own thing, quietly and patiently, with laser focus and for outsiders its at most 'not great not terrible' category. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | Avicebron 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
If the US tried their own belt and road people would be screaming about "imperialism/colonialism/white privilege"... thing's aren't as cut and dried as US evil and "oh shucks that clever Chinese government, not great but not terrible" | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | leonidasrup 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
> Also, China doesn't invade countries half around the world and bring them to utter destruction and misery for generations to come, killing thousands to millions of civilians and creating breeding grounds for things like ISIS. They do their own thing, quietly and patiently, with laser focus and for outsiders its at most 'not great not terrible' category. Here are a list of things that definitely don't fall under 'not great not terrible' category: Great Leap Forward - estimated 15 million to 55 million people death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward#Deaths_by_f... One-child policy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_child_policy Tiananmen Square protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests... People's Republic of China annexation of Tibet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Tibet_by_the_Peo... Support of Khmer Rouge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge#Number_of_deaths Uyghurs in China - est. ≥1 million detained https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_Chin... Leaders of countries which want to do business with China, most countries in the world, have to talk only very quietly about these "sensitive issues", or better not mention them at all. | |||||||||||||||||||||||