| ▲ | TacticalCoder 5 days ago |
| Which is why banning chinese routers and banning chinese cars than can be remotely disabled by the komrades makes sense. Selling cars, worldwide, made sense when they weren't always connected to the mother land. Germans selling you a BMW in the 80s? You've got the key: you turn the key. They couldn't turn off all the BMWs if suddenly the US were to be at war with Germany again. But this madness of cars receiving OTA updates and remote subscriptions and whatnots? |
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| ▲ | steveBK123 5 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| The era of "smart cars" actually makes targeting much easier. You don't need to bulk disable cars in a country. Imagine an enemy country using zero-days to track a military leader via their personal device(s), then disabling their smart civilian vehicle they use to commute to work. Final leg is they had previously parked drones along their expected commute routes for just such an occasion and.. edit: see interesting hypothetical future war series on YT, specifically this bit.. https://youtu.be/drr7mmibt9E?t=157 |
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| ▲ | kakacik 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I presume the very basic safety requirement for any VIP person in the future will be fully offline car, with updates only done at certified secured service, or simply not done since the car just keeps working. Something along melting chip of 5g/whatever antenna or ripping out whole comm box. Ah, think about it, the luxury of owning your own car, you and only you. I can almost imagine it. The future, its bright. | | | |
| ▲ | CGMthrowaway 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hastings_(journalist)#... | |
| ▲ | brokenmachine 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Why do they need drones? They could just make the car accelerate as fast as it goes, when the GPS says it's coming up to a T-junction or something. |
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| ▲ | jeroenhd 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| If you bought a BMW in the 80s and you were suddenly at war with Germany, you'd be stuck scavenging for replacement parts the moment something in the engine failed. It's not as easy and direct, but the problem is still there. Doing business with the enemy always comes with a risk. For countries that don't build their own networking equipment (including the PCBs and chips), you have to accept some level of risk or you have to avoid such technology all together. |
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| ▲ | kilpikaarna 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > Doing business with the enemy always comes with a risk. Or indeed with allies, as Europe is just finding out... | | |
| ▲ | jeroenhd 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Indeed, though we are also finding out how bad it is to not have any local competition in many fields of hardware, software, and manufacturing. Heavily sanctioned countries like Afghanistan and Iran have one thing going for them, and that's that they can't easily build a dependence on foreign technology (though not having such technology at all is arguably just as bad). |
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| ▲ | exitb 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The average time before a car NEEDS a replacement part to run must be at least a few years. That's a different situation from flipping a switch to turn all connected cars off. | | |
| ▲ | jeroenhd 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | But on average, all cars are a few years old, and wars aren't over in a few months. | | |
| ▲ | steveBK123 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Mechanical parts can be reverse engineered after you run out of inventory and the ability to gray-source them via 3rd parties/countries. Also that is an "eventual problem". The era of smart everything exposes you to pinpoint time/place/person disablement by the enemy. | | |
| ▲ | catigula 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Who's "the enemy"? I surrender. The philosophy and structure we rest on is much more precarious than our technologies. | | |
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| ▲ | dasKrokodil 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Not for a BMW though. | | |
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| ▲ | traderj0e 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Italian cars give you this experience without there even being a war |
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