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Rapzid 4 days ago

Wow, we are seeing the dark underbelly of the beast here. Nobody talks about cursor anymore for a reason. Look, I'm not saying it's not useful and discounting anyone getting value out of it...

But it's clearly not worth 60B dollars in April 2026.

miffy900 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Yep. there's absolutely no way that Cursor is worth that much.

for contrast, Elon paid $44b for twitter back in 2022. When you adjust for inflation, Twitter was acquired for $49b in 2026 money. Cursor getting bought for 1.22x more is just insanity.

Elon seems unwilling to shake off the image that he has basically no idea what he's doing.

laughing_man 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

I certainly wouldn't mind having that image if it meant being the wealthiest man in the world.

utopiah 4 days ago | parent [-]

Sounds like playful comments people do about nymphomaniacs. Sure nobody would mind being the wealthiest man in the world without the downsides. Look at the guy. He's not just clueless, he's actually totally lost. Do you know how many kids he has and how many broke all contact with him, the wealthiest man in the World? Does this look like an enviable situation?

laughing_man 4 days ago | parent [-]

As far as I know of his fourteen children only one has broken contact.

utopiah 3 days ago | parent [-]

1/14 isn't a bad ratio... except when we are talking of children, any of those numbers is terrible.

But in this specific context it's even crazier. It's one think to break contact with a parent but I think it's hard to imagine doing so when said parent is extremely rich (just because of both the privilege it gives, but also the risk of reprimand), even more so when they are the richest person on Earth.

websap 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think X paid for itself, so it worked our for him.

numpad0 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

  > Nikita Bier @nikitabier
  >  
  > If you’re seeing a bunch of Japanese posts, here are some fun facts:
  > Japan has more daily active users and more time spent on X than any other country in the world.
  > Over two thirds of the country is monthly active on X. 
  > X in Japan has one of the highest penetration rates of any social network in history.
I wouldn't be so sure when "any other country except US" usually apply to everything on the Internet, except Twitter after the power transfer

1: https://twitter.com/nikitabier/status/2037764895064867061

_--__--__ 4 days ago | parent [-]

I'm pretty sure that claim about Japanese Twitter activity was true for most of the site's history pre acquisition

numpad0 4 days ago | parent [-]

No. JP activity was always second to US, only the biggest "out there". Same is true for all Twitter-like social media, such as Mastodon and Bluesky. Even VRChat doesn't have a majority Japanese userbase. Japan actually becoming the top majority anywhere is an anomaly and a major reversal of power balance.

trollbridge 4 days ago | parent [-]

Still blows me away that Google had complete dominance in Brazil and then just threw it all away and shut it down a few years later.

numpad0 4 days ago | parent [-]

Google Plus? I wouldn't be sure if that was a strategic blunder or if they were seeing something us in the public didn't. I remember it was more popular among not-so-tech savvy male of parental to retirement ages, which are still masses but not the sweet spot in terms of demographics. Besides they have YouTube and its comment section full of kids, which is the sweet spot.

pjc50 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Orkut, which nobody now remembers.

moogly 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Orkut

bix6 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Source?

vkou 4 days ago | parent [-]

It paid in influence, not dollars. Billionaires don't buy newspapers or social media platforms because they think they are good businesses.

93po 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Elon Musk, the richest person on the planet, with multiple industry-changing companies built under his leadership, clearly has no idea what he's doing.

blitzar 4 days ago | parent [-]

Its hard to think clearly when you are in a k-hole.

in ten the speed'll kick in, can of coke and a ciggy and he'll be right as rain

93po 3 days ago | parent [-]

so now we're accusing him of being a habitual drug user? or is this some joke that's going over my head

anonzzzies 2 days ago | parent [-]

You want to keep on topic, so explain in a business-sense way how this acquisition makes sense? Cursor has no moat, just a lot of clients. If spacex would clone vscode, plop in Grok and and advertise it on X as subscription included with your X sub, they would immediately have more clients. Why pay this type of money for that if he is so clever? It is a question; maybe there is a reason, it just looks incredibly skewed towards cursor; they are the big winners with spacex overpaying a large margin for something that does not seem to make a lot of sense?

93po 2 days ago | parent [-]

My argument isn't that I have insider information or even any meaningful knowledge or experience with literally billion dollar acquisitions and investments. My argument is that you don't either, and almost no one does, and Elon doesn't really have a track record of making decisions that have no explanation behind them - even if that basis is sometimes ideological rather than profit maximizing (buying twitter).

Elon is problematic in many ways and despite the cool things his companies do, I think he is also causing harm. However, he is not an idiot, he is very business savvy, he does things for real reasons, and if you're going to speculate that he's being an idiot and making a stupid decision, then I think it needs an argument of substance that actually understands the factors at play in spending billions of dollars on buying a company. Which I don't think either of us are equipped to provide.

Saying "this doesn't make sense" is basically an admission that it isn't understood, rather than evidence that Elon is being an idiot.

anonzzzies 2 days ago | parent [-]

It is fair, however, people who are too big too fail have a lot of leeway after their brain goes. I think it could be an explanation as well. But we indeed do not know; don't have nor want billions. People like that definitely live in another world.

93po 2 days ago | parent [-]

I don't see any evidence that Elon's brain is "going" and in fact he's literally more successful than ever - and more than almost anyone in history. Which isn't me trying to kiss his ass but rather just a statement of facts that anyone can see by looking at the net worth scoreboard. If we saw any evidence of senility or brain rot or whatever people want to accuse him of, then sure, maybe there can be room for "maybe Elon is starting to make truly idiotic business decisions".

I do agree wealth does cause brain rot and even the people trying to be most self-aware about it still fall victim to their bubbles and egos. I think Elon shows this plenty is many aspects of his life, but business is not one of them.

manquer 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It is not cash though. SpaceX does not have $60B liquid cash instruments.

More accurately it is 3.4% of SpaceX at the last rumored valuation of $1.75T.

cuuupid 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

No longer rumored as they filed for IPO!

This is actually an amazing sweetheart deal for Cursor. Many times with these high profile acquisitions, most stock is tied to LPA's and employment at the company, and also earnout provisions. The company then finds a way to parachute them out early, which both voids the earnout and their employment, thus they never vest most of the units and the few units they do vest get bought out at 409A valuations which are typically much, much lower.

In the case of Cursor this is an amazing boon as SpaceX listed at an almost 100x multiple which is absolutely staggering. Had SpaceX stayed private they could have 409a'd Cursor and got it for effectively ~100M$ cash.

manquer 4 days ago | parent [-]

Until there is public S-1 and a price range which very much could change during the roadshow, there is no known valuation or range.

throwaway85825 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

There's not going to be $60B of exit liquidity if/when spacex IPOs. Maybe the suckers will be banks lending against the bubble valuation.

jeffgreco 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A crazy and lucky bailout for Cursor + investors.

bluefirebrand 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Forget bailout, this is a massive payday for them

bensyverson 4 days ago | parent [-]

Elon got snowed…

moralestapia 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Which includes OpenAI, btw.

Not just OpenAI, but OpenAI and OpenAI[1].

1: https://cursor.com/blog/series-a

randyrand 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

They bought options.

squidsoup 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The only reason I haven't switched back to VS Code is pure laziness, not using any AI features in Cursor other than resolving diffs these days.

cleaning 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Just because it's not discussed much on HN does not imply it is not relevant in the broader space. Cursor is still very much prevalent there with 1 mil DAU.

gdhkgdhkvff 4 days ago | parent [-]

I’m curious if that 1 million DAU still holds as of today. I think it was reported last year some time aka before December when Claude code exploded. A quick google didn’t turn up any results that actually contained sources for the number.

therobots927 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It makes you wonder how much of this is essentially money laundering.

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