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toraway 5 hours ago

Wait what, so they're testing giving new users misleading information about included services in each tier as an upsell tactic?

gip 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It could be an A/B test to see whether people without an existing subscription care about Claude Code (CC) at all. If they sign up then CC is disabled (or not as it is not really an issue to offer more). Capturing that info would definitely be useful to a growth team.

Arcuru 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No, they're testing removing it from the Pro tier for new subscribers.

nemomarx 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No I think the test is that some new sign ups won't get Claude code in that tier if they pick it and they're seeing if users will still pay for it without it?

fluidcruft 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think the test is that new sign-ups won't have it and will the loss of five new Pro subscriptions be offset by more than one new Max subscribers.

Plenty of Pro subscribers never touch claude-code.

QuadmasterXLII 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Although the ones that never touch claude code are a free $20 a month, the ones that do are potentially a seventy to eighty dollar twenty dollars a month . it’s not instantly obvious which customers you prefer (revenue vs cash negative growth- on second thought obviously they prefer the second)

nemomarx 5 hours ago | parent [-]

They've preferred the second so far, but they might have a fair reason to see if they can keep growing with the first one instead or cut down on some loss leading, right?

HarHarVeryFunny 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's how i read it too - they want to test if people will still pay for pro plan if it doesn't include Claude Code. At the same time they are also saying that if you subscribe having been told it does include Claude Code, they may still change their mind later and take it away!