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Legend2440 4 hours ago

The environmental cost is significantly overblown, especially water usage.

bayindirh 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I work with direct liquid cooled systems. If the datacenter is working with open DLC systems (most AI datacenters in the US in fact do), there's a lot of water is being wasted, 7/24/365.

A mid-tier top-500 system (think about #250-#325) consumes about a 0.75MW of energy. AI data centers consume magnitudes more. To cool that behemoth you need to pump tons of water per minute in the inner loop.

Outer loop might be slower, but it's a lot of heated water at the end of the day.

To prevent water wastage, you can go closed loop (for both inner and outer loops), but you can't escape the heat you generate and pump to the atmosphere.

So, the environmental cost is overblown, as in Chernobyl or fallout from a nuclear bomb is overblown.

So, it's not.

Legend2440 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It's not that it doesn't use water; it's that water is not scarce unless you live in a desert.

As a country, we use 322 billion gallons of water per day. A few million gallons for a datacenter is nothing.

bayindirh 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The problem is you don't just use that water and give it back.

The water gets contaminated and heated, making it unsuitable for organisms to live in, or to be processed and used again.

In short, when you pump back that water to the river, you're both poisoning and cooking the river at the same time, destroying the ecosystem at the same time too.

Talk about multi-threaded destruction.

Legend2440 3 hours ago | parent [-]

No, you're making that up. Datacenters do not poison rivers.

bayindirh 3 hours ago | parent [-]

To reiterate, I work in a closed loop DLC datacenter.

Pipes rust, you can't stop that. That rust seeps to the water. That's inevitable. Moreover, if moss or other stuff starts to take over your pipes, you may need to inject chemicals to your outer loop to clean them.

Inner loops already use biocides and other chemicals to keep them clean.

Look how nuclear power plants fight with organism contamination in their outer cooling loops where they circulate lake/river water.

Same thing.

jll29 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Just because some countries waste a lot at present time does not mean it's available as a resource indefinitely.