Couldn't have happened to a more deserving group of people. My irony detector is sparking so badly I think it's about to blow.

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2ndorderthought 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

As much as it's funny to dunk on meta this type of surveillance is becoming the norm. Failed start ups are selling all their emails, chats, commits, etc for companies to train on. Most job offers now come with statements about how you don't have right to your likeness, or your personal network I think most people assume that's for photo ops, but ... Yea. I expect more and more of this. products and product features rolling out with this as a focus

Companies have shown us that IP going to AI providers is acceptable. Once you cross that line your thought workers are assets not people.

	▲	j45 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		You never really owned what you typed or said at work in to their laptops, into their accounts using their software.

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gdhkgdhkvff 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is a naive take on this. Do you think it stops with just metamates(lmao that’s what they call themselves) being surveilled? Nope. This is the exact type of thing that software IC’s should reject in solidarity. Being happy with BadCompanyX trampling employee expectations directly allows for GoodCompanyY to enact the same policies.

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Blackthorn 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm happy to see the metamates (lol) receiving the same pain they inflict on others. Maybe it will teach them a lesson in solidarity.

You can't have solidarity about a bad thing with the people who are doing the bad thing! They have to stop doing the bad thing first! That's how solidarity works!

	▲	shimman 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Don't expect any solidarity to come from such people, they literally sold out humanity for slightly higher salaries. They made their beds, least they can do is feel bad.

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JoshTriplett 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> This is the exact type of thing that software IC’s should reject in solidarity.

Yes. Which includes quitting, en masse, from any company that does this.

Meta ought to find it impossible to employ anyone with a policy like this.

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leptons 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe in 2010 or 2015, but in 2026? Nobody is quitting their high paying job when the job market is this rough. A bubble has burst and there just are not the tech jobs out there that there used to be.

And employers know this, so they are enacting all kinds of draconian policies because they know employees know that they can't just leave the job and also keep their families fed.

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ianbutler 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

job market is 2019 levels this rhetoric is nice, but doesn't stack up. yes it's not 2021 levels which is where they over hired and hired a bunch of people they would not have hired before then.

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quadrifoliate 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This really depends on where you are. In the Bay Area it may be 2019 levels, in other parts of the country it is way worse than 2019.

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hx8 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The tech job market was about 2019 levels a year ago. It's materially worse now.

	▲	leptons an hour ago \| parent [-]
		We are at 2001 dot-com bubble burst levels now, as far as I'm concerned.

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gdhkgdhkvff 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If only there was some way where workers in this profession could form some type of JOIN(but like a vertical version?) between different sets of workers, even crossing company boundaries, so that workers could coordinate to ensure that everyone would be quitting at once, and therefore have any power at all to block anti-worker edicts.

	▲	simpaticoder 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		So, like an intersection of workers?

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bsilvereagle 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There are large organizations at Meta focused on basic research & design (FAIR, Open Compute, PyTorch, etc) and giving back to the community. Not everyone is maximizing revenue.

	▲	resident423 5 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		There are also large organizations at Meta focussed on the optimal distribution of scam ads to the elderly. https://www.reuters.com/investigations/meta-is-earning-fortu...
	▲	dlev_pika 6 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		I guess Palantir is cool as long as they keep the queer interest group going
	▲	Teever 6 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Like all of us these people make a cost-benefit analysis when it comes to their choice of employer and how much it suits their purposes and personal priorities like giving back to the community. This is just another factor they’ll have to grapple with in their analysis. I’m sure some of them will find it a bridge too far but not enough to really matter. The work will continue as will the expansion of Meta and the negative externalities that it produces.