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marssaxman 8 hours ago

> far leftists who are increasingly dominating Democratic

As a far leftist myself, I can only wish that were true; it would be a great problem to have! No, the Democratic Party is a fundamentally non-democratic institution, run from the top down by an insiders' club who care about 1) their own careers, 2) the priorities of their millionaire donors, and 3) the results of opinion polls, strictly in that order. You may be hearing more leftist voices than you're used to, but they are appealing to the party - with little effect - and certainly not dominating it.

tts626 8 hours ago | parent [-]

The far left is inherently non-democratic, so it's kind of an odd thing to complain about.

The only way far left policies are ever enacted is by a top-down insider's club of elites who think they know best for everyone else.

Of course, that's the same for the ultra-conservatives too. Extreme policies have never been popular with the American people.

In both cases, you have authoritarianism and statism differing only by sentiment and temperament.

But despite Trump's personality, he has a very broad appeal to ordinary people, speaks plainly, and for better or worse, does exactly what he says he'll do.

Conversely, Democrats seem to do nothing but back pedal and blame shift whenever their pie-in-the-sky policies fail miserably.

And of course, whenever the Democrats lose, their radical base takes to the streets, because obviously democracy has failed.

You may think of yourself as a far leftists, but if you really do embrace democracy, rule of law, and stand against authoritarianism, you're probably not nearly as far left as you imagine.

marssaxman 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> In both cases, you have authoritarianism and statism differing only by sentiment and temperament.

We certainly agree there! - those tendencies are not exclusive to either end of the political axis.

One of the fun truths about leftists is that we disagree with each other as vigorously as we do with folks from the other side of the aisle: there are many forms of leftism, and they are certainly not all authoritarian or statist. In some strains of leftism, there is no role for the state at all; in others, opposition to authoritarianism is a primary concern.

I am sure that from a conservative viewpoint the other side looks like one big undifferentiated mass of crazy people, but from where I sit, the Democratic party looks like a fundamentally centrist institution which mostly prefers business-as-usual, occasionally proposing small tweaks in the direction of slightly softening the rough edges of the system when that will make the big donors happy. Leftists describe this as "liberalism". Voters may call for radical change from time to time, but the party never gets around to doing anything about it.

> probably not nearly as far left as you imagine

I am not sure how you can get any further left than libertarian socialism.

guzfip 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> The only way far left policies are ever enacted is by a top-down insider's club of elites who think they know best for everyone else.

Kinda like the pedowood actors and financiers on the establishment left/right screaming at young men about how they need to die in some stupid war between two rapist dessert tribes.