Isnt that the entire value proposition of the company?

lynndotpy 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's kind of mind boggling to me that they have a tight chassis, AND it meets their buildable/ugpradeable/repairable goals, AND their backwards compatibility is reaching back five years now.

I think a number of people would have expected these to eventually require a trade-off. Especially coming from pc-building land, where we see new non-backwards-compatible CPU and RAM sockets every 6 or so years.

There's a version of this where Frame.work said, "Design tradeoffs mean the 13 Pro is a new platform that is largely not backwards compatible, but don't worry, the 13 series will still get 5+ years of support and parts" and everyone goes "Aw, well, I guess that's reasonable."

I really want to emphasize that it's looking like Framework is creating a laptop with _better_ backwards compatibility and build-ability than a desktop PC.

All this is to say that this is very very impressive!

	▲	aljgz 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Even more impressive than going back 5 years is going back all the way to the first version. While I'm a software engineer, I've worked in teams where we shipped hardware, and for a consumer product with lots of constraints including implicit expectations, going against the entire trend of the past 15 years and targeting a hard-to satisfy market segment, they far exceeded what I expected when they announced their first product.

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pdpi 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Unfortunately, we live in a world where most companies pay lip service to their stated value proposition, while racing to the bottom.

	▲	cassepipe 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Remember "Microsoft loves linux" ?

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chis 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They could have done a much more minimal version and called it a day. Being able to swap individual components of the chassis into a 5 year old model is, to me, going way above and beyond.

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al_borland 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Doing the bare minimum isn’t how brand loyalty is built.

	▲	cassepipe 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Sadly brand loyalty isn't as valuable as one would think in a world where price and shiny-looking features tend to dominate

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simonjgreen 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That doesn’t negate how impressive it is

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amelius 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, saying you will do X and then doing X is more impressive than just doing X.

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simonjgreen 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Isn't it sad that we are surrounded by so many broken promises that that is remarkable

	▲	stavros an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Planning is just very hard.
	▲	amelius 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		No, the statement is universal.

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prism56 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes but it's truly impressive to see it. It shows it can be done.

An 11th gen CPU/mobo that came out in 2020 can be dropped straight into this new chassis.

Or the newest display be can be dropped into your 2020 laptop/chassis.

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aembleton 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I wish they booted them up in that video. Its one thing being able to plug parts in but its another for them to all work together.

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prism56 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Based on my experience upgrading my FW. There's probably drivers and bios updates needed to do the transfer

	▲	tosti 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Back in 2002 I took the HDD from one PC, put it in a different PC, worked just fine. The worst thing that could happen is that the other one already had another disk so I had to change /etc/fstab to say "hdb" instead of "hda" and vice versa. Didn't take long for that to get fixed by specifying UUIDs and having initramfs sort it out. IDK why it's not working for you but this should all just work without bothering with any configuration, drivers, or whatever.