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maxo133 3 hours ago

The fact that graphane is getting attacked speaks enough for it's relability. First in france now in Wired.

I'm more concerned that Signal incorporated in US is having easy life.

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user_7832 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> I'm more concerned that Signal incorporated in US is having easy life.

To add - ironically, it was Durov (Telegram founder) who got arrested in Paris.

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neonstatic 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't find it ironic at all. Zero trust for anything Russia related.

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yaro330 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Durov is about as anti-Putin and russia in general as one can get. He go fucked hard in russia and has been going extremely hard against the censorship in russia. TG is one of the few chat apps that can avoid russia's suppression measures, when everything else working over internet fails.

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TFNA 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Durov has been going hard against censorship because the pressure on Russians to switch to MAX might consign his own app to oblivion. But to call Durov “anti-Russia” when Telegram development and servers remained in Russia, is to ascribe to him a dissident status that he doesn’t actually deserve.

(Durov himself is known to regularly visit Russia, while denying he ever visits Russia. Telegram opened a Dubai office claiming that it was now a Dubai-headquartered company, but that was a mere legal formality; no one was actually there at that office, and journalists visiting it found that not even the building staff knew anything about Telegram. In practice, the company continues to exist out of Russia.)

	▲	kqp 5 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Do you have a source for any of this? Wikipedia and news that I can find support that he fled Russia after government conflicts. It’s also well known that he keeps his and the dev team’s location secret, so anybody going knocking on incorporation addresses in Dubai then feigning surprise is acting in bad faith.

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neonstatic 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Half of Russian military uses it in the field. I do not care what story that guy is spreading around about his affiliations or lack of with Russia. Zero trust. Never touching Telegram.

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kelvinjps10 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

he is not pro-Putin, the Telegram team was forced to leave and it has been blocked several times in Russia.

	▲	Jamesbeam 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Not being pro-Putin doesn’t really matter to Putin. If he tells Durov to sit and be a good dog, Durov will sit and be a good dog. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Kk7kobMQY