I think the problem with touch bar was that, it completely replaced the function keys, instead of complementing them. Other than that, I actually liked it.

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plomme 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Hah, that reminds me! My first work issued Mac didn't have the ESC key, just the touch bar. IIRC a program hung in fullscreen, freezing both the app and the touch bar. So I had to reboot to get out of it because the esc key didn't work.

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vel0city 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Its interesting the touch bar was also hung up, as from what I recall the touchbar was actually driven by a separate processor (the T1/T2 chip) and had its own version of watchOS running. I would have thought it would have continued working, just unable to continue syncing with the rest of the Mac.

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Forgeties79 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It’s rare but I’ve definitely seen my touchbar lock up or go dark and require a restart.

It also could get mad hot on my 2016 MBpro when video editing. Still love(d) that computer though…

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Groxx 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, it locked up on me every couple months or so. Very glad to see it gone (as the primary ESC + F-row input).

I also would not mind it in addition to regular keys, there are some great interactions in there. But it's an extremely poor keyboard-emulator. Splitting off the escape key made a huge improvement, but it's nowhere near enough.

	▲	Forgeties79 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Yeah Apple has had a few missteps like this over the last 5 to 10 years. They assert themselves with that Steve Jobs mentality of “we know what’s best for you,” but he got it right more often than the current iteration. The touch bar was definitely not properly assessed by users before shipping.

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prewett 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You should have been able to Cmd-Tab to a different app; if that wasn't working, something more serious was going on. Also, if you have Spaces enabled, you can three-finger swipe, since a full screen app gets its own Space.

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reddit_clone 10 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That.

And I had to look down every time I had use it. I am glad to see it go.

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pants2 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Another issue with the touch bar is that part of the laptop gets quite hot (especially on Intel CPUs), and so did the touch bar. I recall a few times feeling like I burned my finger just pressing esc during video rendering.

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wtallis 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think the lack of haptic feedback is what doomed the Touch Bar. If they'd been able to solve that problem, it could have been an acceptable replacement for the function keys.