then bloody stop sending troops to all other countries under whatever pretexts.

We’re trying to. Trump is even going to end NATO (and hopefully ANZUS, the Japan MDA, and the agreement with Taiwan). It’s time to stop interfering in other people’s affairs. We should stop messing with Ukraine too and maybe we will within the next few years.

Once the Iran misadventure ends we can drop the whole pretense and you can do your thing and we can do our thing.

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watwut 17 hours ago | parent [-]

I do not know who it is "we", but Trump is certainly NOT trying to stop sending soldiers abroad. Instead, it is using them to attack Venezuela, Iran, Cuba, boats on the see cause killing is fun and to threaten Greenland. Iran is completely pointless and expensive war in particular. Also, pressuring Ukraine to give up more territory then Russia took is NOT "stopping to mess in other peoples affairs" either.

Also, what Vance is doing in Europe is not "stopping to mess in other peoples affairs" but instead "meddling into politics trying to make far right happen".

Trade war with Canada and numerous attempts to "punish" other countries for prosecuting corruption are also meddling.

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renewiltord 17 hours ago | parent [-]

The Russia-Ukraine thing is not a US concern. It’s problematic we are messing in it. Hopefully, we will be out soon and withdraw from NATO. Trade war are just the conditions to sell your stuff in our country. If your country has zero tariffs then I understand but which one is that? Then you’ve been prosecuting trade war for decades and now upset someone else does?

What is sold in our country is our business just like what is sold in yours is your business.

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actionfromafar 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The US is too large to pretend it can be isolationist.

	▲	renewiltord 12 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The Europeans want us out of Europe. So maybe we should go. I think that seems mutually agreeable. Let them slaughter each other again and we can come stop it and pick up the pieces. Again. Always have to be the adult in the room.

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Vasbarlog 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Of course Ukraine is a US affair. Only look at who is benefiting when Europe stops getting cheap gas from Russia.

Also the tariffs that Trump imposed are just laughable and have no connection to reality. Do you honestly believe that the EU was imposing tariffs to the US to the tune of 39%?!

	▲	renewiltord 12 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The EU bans US chicken and has a quota for US beef. We let you sell at a premium rather than ban you. Don’t act as if that’s somehow worse, but I think you could convince Trump that bans are better than tariffs if you like. Russia/Ukraine is a Europe-internal matter. Soon we will be out of it and the Europeans can solve their own wars. Uncivilized people. You leave them alone for a few years and massive warfare. No doubt you’re prepping the concentration camps again and we’ll have to stop genocide again. But I guess you gotta let them do it first. It’s not our business.