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louthy 2 days ago

I’m in Europe. I use it as part of Apple CarPlay for all my navigation and I think it’s much better than Google Maps (for car navigation, at least)

madaxe_again 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Really depends on where you are in Europe. Out here in the boonies of Portugal, it’s excellent if you’re driving a 4x4 pickup truck, which is the only vehicle of mine I use it with, as it picks very direct routes, which often involve ridiculously steep muddy dirt tracks, very narrow bridges, and generally just very underused farm tracks.

I tried using it in Bosnia, once, and it decided to use an abandoned airfield landing strip as a shortcut. Wild stuff.

Zanfa 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

This is my exact experience, but with Google Maps. Constantly suggesting gravel (or worse) side roads instead of highways and hallucinating multiple turn lanes etc on a country road about 1 car wide. It's been a few years, but I still remember the time I was in Berlin and buses didn't run due to bad weather, but I had a flight to catch so I had to walk to the Tegel airport and the route Google maps recommended ended up being quite an adventure, having to crawl through a hole in a linked fence on an unlit dead-end road next to the airport.

shakow 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In the Balkans, both Apple Maps and Google Maps are completely lost.

I frequently drive through Serbia/Bulgaria/Montenegro/Macedonia, and if you ever do, do yourself a favor and install something OpenStreetMap-based.

Otherwise, you will be missing new motorways, get thrown on unpaved roads, or even asked to drive on roads that just do not exist anymore.

rafram 2 days ago | parent [-]

Apple Maps uses OSM data in many countries.

shakow 2 days ago | parent [-]

Obviously not in these then. Do you know which ones?

rafram 2 days ago | parent [-]

No, and as far as I know, they don't say. But a lot of their not-direct-from-OSM map data comes from TomTom, which also ingests OSM. There's a lot of OSM in Apple Maps, as there is in most other non-Googly mapping apps.

pfix 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

So it was at least concrete / tarmac instead of mud?

madaxe_again 2 days ago | parent [-]

Concrete. Used the opportunity to do some doughnuts before continuing on our journey.

gargs 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Apple Maps is absolutely very late to the game when it comes to road closures. Google Maps somehow always knows which roads are closed, even if for a few minutes.

k12sosse 2 days ago | parent [-]

Because users on Waze report it to them for points

tim333 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Also, I'm not sure but if a road that normally has several cars a minute goes to zero cars in five minutes say, it's likely it's blocked.

Jeremy1026 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Apple Maps does have the ability to make the same reports, but its super buried so I doubt many people even know its possible, let alone where to go to do it.

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cvak 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

tbf google maps are absolutely shit for car navigation.