Conversely, a web app platform that includes all the primitives that are needed to build a decent web app (as opposed to bring your own everything/building castles from grains of sand model) would be nice. It doesn't necessarily have to be a browser, though.

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colechristensen 3 hours ago | parent [-]

We had those (Flash, Shockwave, Java Applets, etc.), the browser won.

Nobody is going to win over browsers with an opinionated batteries included application framework.

	▲	cosmic_cheese 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Those all had major issues. All of them were constrained to a browser environment, the first two were proprietary and full of security holes, and all of them had a reputation for causing browser or even full OS crashes. I wouldn't say that any of them were particularly "batteries included", either. Flash was probably closest but still left a lot of legwork to the developer.