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devindotcom 6 hours ago

I don't grant it. if you mean it is impossible to tell from the music itself, perhaps. but there are other means of verification.

somewhatgoated 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A human can still upload tons of AI generated music though?

I don’t see how verifying that the author is a human helps in any way.

I also don’t think it’s a big problem but that’s another discussion

devindotcom 5 hours ago | parent [-]

sounds like you don't really care about this honestly, so i'll reflect your apathy

hombre_fatal 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What are any reasonable examples of how you can verify a song wasn't AI-generated?

e.g. Game speedrunners film the whole process to prove they did it themselves.

Presumably you had some ideas when you envisioned "human-verified platforms".

harvey9 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Follow musicians and bands that perform live would be my choice. If they write their music with AI and I still like it then that's ok by me. Obviously this doesn't scale if you are a platform operator but that's not my situation.

devindotcom 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

music can be performed live and in person. many musicians work with other musicians, labels, studios etc. a web of trust can be built and verification via performance is a compelling option. not complete but it's certainly an option.

would you as a label sign an artist you'd never seen perform? maybe there is value in a platform working under similar constraints.

hombre_fatal 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

With the internet and modern platforms, we democratized music so that you can make music in your bedroom and publish it without collaborating with a record label, produces, etc. So you'd have to put some of that cat back into the bag, but for what?

I guess there could exist a Spotify that is limited to music performed live for people who like that. Or simpler: a checkbox you can click to filter it to music known to have been performed live.

But that doesn't sound like something I'd want imposed on all music on a platform. Scrolling through my SoundCloud favorites right now, less than half of them perform live at all, and a lot of it is remixes that are never performed live. And most of them are pseudonymous. I'd lose more than half of my music if the platform required music to have been performed live. A lot of music isn't even performable live.

devindotcom 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>But that doesn't sound like something I'd want imposed on all music on a platform.

that's fine. there's room for multiple platforms. personally I would pay for the thing I describe, sounds like you wouldn't. but the question is not whether you or i would, but whether enough people would to make it a viable business - whether it's the platform, or the method, or a label that licenses its music in a certain way, or what.