| ▲ | wg0 6 hours ago |
| Notice the pattern that Chinese providers are now: 1. Keeping models closed source. 2. Jacking up pricing. A lot. Sometimes up to 100% increase. |
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| ▲ | embedding-shape 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Huh yeah, that's truly a unique trait these Chinese companies don't share with companies in other countries. |
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| ▲ | aerhardt 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | No it is not, but they had a unique positioning around open-source and the parent commenter means that they are losing it. |
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| ▲ | nicce 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Jacking up pricing. A lot. Sometimes up to 100% increase. How is that different from American? |
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| ▲ | Tepix 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Are you talking about GLM 5.1, DeepSeek V3.2 or Kimi K2.6 (released one hour ago!)? Oh wait, it doesn't apply to those… |
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| ▲ | Kerrick 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Z.ai's Coding Plan with GLM 5.1 (Max) did more than double in price. It was $80 two weeks ago, and now it's $160. | | |
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| ▲ | slopinthebag 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Coding plans are subsidised crap anyways, the real price win is the API pricing which is not. |
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| ▲ | dingocat 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yet. |
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| ▲ | OtomotO 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| US companies hate that trick?! |
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| ▲ | rc_kas 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | you mean: invented | | |
| ▲ | sunaookami 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah Claude Haiku (don't remember the version) did it first, they claimed it was because "it's smarter now" (it's still dumb). Then OpenAI did it with GPT-5 and Google did the same with Gemini Flash and now every new model version is at least twice as expensive than the one before that. |
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| ▲ | cute_boi 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Well, they can't subsidize forever. And, it is kinda expected? |
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| ▲ | gpm 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Considering the propaganda value in controlling the inputs to the machine that answers peoples questions, I rather expect them to be subsidized forever. | | |
| ▲ | bigyabai 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Consider the propaganda value of a centrally-controlled apparatus like the iPhone, and then reflect on the 100%+ profit margins that product has enjoyed for the past decade. |
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| ▲ | cnlwsu 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| what only Oracle can do it? |
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| ▲ | throwaway613746 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | ai_fry_ur_brain 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Yeah, its almost like the casinos started rigging the game after they got all the addicts hooked. Who saw that coming??? If you overuse LLMs or get excited about them at all, you're ngmi and a complete idiot. |
