Those are not mutually exclusive at all, and there were waterproof phones with replaceable batteries (without even needing a screwdriver). This is mostly an excuse.

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throwaway27448 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I am not sure I believe this, but I'm sure there are phones that attempted it.

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Aachen 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Then read upthread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47835184

I just don't see why we can't have nice things until proven otherwise (especially considering there is already evidence that this works), rather than have glued-shut devices until proven otherwise (by whom then? Apparently IP and practical experiences aren't enough for you)

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syncsynchalt 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Samsung only rated the S5 Active as water resistant, and only IP67.

We're talking about IP68, where you can take a new phone with you on a long swim.

	▲	Aachen 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I clicked the "parent comment" link all the way to the submission, and opened the submission as well. Nothing mentions IP68. Which "we" is this goalpost coming from?