If money is no object, then nothing else is worth considering if it isn't Codex 5.4/Opus 4.7/SOTA. But for many to most people, value Vs. relative quality are huge levers.

Even many people on a Claude subscription aren't choosing or able to choose Opus 4.7 because of those cost/usage pressures. Often using Sonnet or an older opus, because of the value Vs. quality curve.

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dd8601fn 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Also us weirdos with local model uses. But your point stands.

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seplite 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Unfortunately, like with the release of Qwen3.6-Plus, this model also isn’t released for local use. From the linked article: “Qwen3.6-Max-Preview is the hosted proprietary model available via Alibaba Cloud Model Studio”

	▲	zozbot234 7 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The Max series was never available for local use, though. So this is expected.
	▲	dd8601fn 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Sure, not plus or max. I just use their lesser moe ones locally (that would never come close to massive sota models) all the time.

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CamperBob2 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Cost may or may not be a factor in my choice of model, but knowing the capabilities and knowing they will remain consistent, reliable, and available over time is always a dominant consideration. Lately, Anthropic in particular has not been great at that.

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jpfromlondon 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

anecdotally the quality of output isn't significantly different, the speed seems to be what you're really paying for, and since the alternative is free I'll stick to local.

	▲	paprikanotfound 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		What are the best models to run locally?

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elAhmo 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Codex 5.4 is not out?

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wahnfrieden 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Codex subscription is very generous at pro tiers