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zb3 9 hours ago

They can click everything away, so maybe educate them or buy an ios device for your relatives instead of breaking computing for everyone else.

lpcvoid 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Fair, but remember that we are the <~1% of people who even know what webusb is. I'm not sure I share your view on this.

Maybe an about:config switch to enable it would be enough to stop casuals from pwning their peripherals.

barnabee 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I’d be ok with an about:config switch, but given that many people will install anything, paste arbitrary text into terminals, and share their password/pin code with complete strangers for almost no reason, I think we need to stop making our tools less powerful in pursuit of an impossible goal.

Orygin 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> breaking computing for everyone else

How is not implementing a Draft spec, which may compromise security badly, breaking computing?

Overreacting much?

zb3 7 hours ago | parent [-]

This is not just an isolated incident, it's the whole trend of limiting capabilities in the name of security and that's what I was referring to.

However in this particular case, even the security argument doesn't hold, either I:

a) know that I want to use USB - in that case I'll switch browsers or download a native binary (even more unsafe), it's not that I'd decide that I no longer want to flash my smartphone

b) I don't understand what's happening but I follow arbitrary instructions anyway - WebUSB changes nothing.

Orygin 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A native binary can be verified by anti malware systems, and once installed and working, poses no security risk.

A 0day in a browser for the WebUSB system would allow any website to mess with arbitrary USB devices connected to your computer.

While the browser sandbox is generally safe, it is also a huge target, and with a security risk like that, it wouldn't surprise me if it's a prime target for black hats.

skydhash 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So instead of using trusted vendors or requiring tools with auditable code, we just allow everyone to be able to access the user’s devices?

CamperBob2 6 hours ago | parent [-]

What a concept. We could call it "Personal Computing."

skydhash 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Not really that personal when every webpage is itching to put their hands on it.

troupo 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> They can click everything away, so maybe

So maybe don't populate the browser with dozens of features requiring permission popups?