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amelius 6 days ago

If you want to make it more human-explainable, then ditch the entire tokenizer and just feed the models raw characters. Because now there is nothing to explain.

sigmoid10 6 days ago | parent [-]

Then that means you need at least 4x the compute to achieve the same results as state of the art. Meaning that if I can train my frontier model with my normal tokenizer in 3 months, it will take you a year. When major releases across all competing providers are measured in months, there's simply no incentive to do that just to capture these fringe edge cases.

amelius 6 days ago | parent [-]

Yes, OK. But all the tutorials start with explaining how a tokenizer works. This is not necessary. And in fact makes the message of why a tokenizer is necessary not come across as well.