Snowdens document leaks happened in 2013 (implying the surveillance state was set up well before then). So this is more a leisurely stroll than a sprint.

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aftbit 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Room 641A was leaked in 2006. To some extent, this all started in the 1940s with the Enigma and JN-25 code breaks. After that, everyone knew that intelligence was the future of power.

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samrus 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The zamboni of fascism is slowly moving towards us, and we are jist laying on the ice waiting to be sliced up

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walrus01 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Anyone who had read Bamford's books on the NSA many years prior to 2013 took a look at what info came out and had an internal thought process like "this is nothing new at all".

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me_me_me 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is it though, current US President is openly for sale. If you need something done you go to Donald and pay the price. Need a pardon? No problem.

Its broad daylight mafia state, the way they operate. 15 years ago Fox News tried to generate outrage because obama wore tan suit.

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esseph 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

100%

- US democracy rating is way down.

- Pardons way up.

- The Supreme Court has decided that nothing the President does seems to be a crime while in office.

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mannanj an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Is this political commentary open to hearing opposition?

Biden, seems like you won't like this by the sound of your "Fox News..." statement, literally pardoned his son for crimes before leaving (that guy with hundreds of photos of prostitution and cocaine use and other crimes). Biden also pardoned Fauci for serious crimes.

So who's for sale again?

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