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decimalenough 6 hours ago

Very misleading title: it should be "Solar leads global energy growth for the first time".

Still good news, but a long, long way from solar becoming the world's primary source of energy.

kube-system an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, from the source report, for total generation capacity, solar is in a distant sixth:

Coal: 10858 TWh

Natural Gas: 6822 TWh

Hydro: 4470 TWh

Nuclear: 2859 TWh

Wind: 2723 TWh

Solar: 2653 TWh

Decent growth, but still a long way to go.

ViewTrick1002 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

The energy system has investment cycles counted in decades.

Looking at TWh of renewables added each year we will have grids entirely dominated by them in 10-15 years. That is lightning speed for the energy system, and we’re still speeding up.

iso1631 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> solar becoming the world's primary source of energy

Solar has always been the primary source of energy, Something like 99.95%, with geothermal taking 90% of the rest and tidal being basically zero

leonidasrup 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You can look at coal, oil, gas as form of compressed solar energy, because all of them have biological source, stored millions of year ago. It's just burning coal, oil, gas has nasty side effects.

" Volcanic coal-burning in Siberia led to climate change 252 million years ago.

Extensive burning in Siberia was a cause of the Permo-Triassic extinction " https://www.nsf.gov/news/volcanic-coal-burning-siberia-led-c...

ilogik 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What about nuclear?

guepe 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Fuel was created by the explosion of supernovae, still solar but not our sun.

Lambdanaut 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

By that logic, all of the Earth and the moon were once parts of stars, so tidal and geothermal are also solar.

When people say "solar energy", they are usually referring to first order solar energy, directly from photons, not second or third order solar energy after it has been trapped into other sources of potential energy.

philipallstar 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If it's not our sun then it isn't solar.

triceratops 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Pedantry I can get behind. Cheers

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pfdietz 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Probably neutron star collisions, actually.

iso1631 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

tiny insignificant amounts

eucryphia 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Should it be ‘solar leading energy subsidy growth’.

deaux 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No chance, fossil fuels are subsidized more. A large share of solar growth is from countries like Pakistan who have had some subsidies but total dollar amount of them is trivial.

dzhiurgis 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Got source?

China only ended solar panel export subsidy this month.

deaux 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Pricing fossil fuel pollution at zero is the biggest subsidy in the world bar none. Contrast this with for example nuclear power, where potential pollution risks as well as storage of its spent resources are some of the biggest costs. If they were subsidized equally to fossil fuels, the costs of those would be very low, with the public simply paying the price for any negative health effects.

Oil is directly subsidized in most oil producing countries. Go look at what fuel costs in Saudi Arabia or Nigeria, vs what they could sell it for on international markets. That's a subsidy.

Jet fuel is universally exempt from tax. Try finding any other energy source that is.

actionfromafar 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The US oil subsidy currently is projected to increase the Pentagon budget from one trillion to one and half. I bet one could build a lot of solar panels for 500 billion dollars, and you can use them more than once, too.

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RALaBarge 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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Aboutplants 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Solar subsidies still pale in comparison to oil and gas subsidies worldwide

thelastgallon 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Global Fossil Fuel Subsidies Reached $7 Trillion in 2022, an All-Time High: https://e360.yale.edu/digest/fossil-fuel-subsidies-2022

Plus, add the entire defense budget of US + western countries, which only exists to protect oil interests.