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aliljet 2 hours ago

This is the rugpull that is starting to push me to reconsider my use of Claude subscriptions. The "free ride" part of this being funded as a loss leader is coming to a close. While we break away from Claude, my hope is that I can continue to send simple problems to very smart local llms (qwen 3.6, I see you) and reserve Claude for purely extreme problems appropriate for it's extreme price.

baxtr 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

There is something I don't understand in all of this:

Let's say you spend $100 on tokens, how can you be sure it's "too much" compared to the value you're getting?

I would expect that - once you're out of the experimentation phase - you should be able to say whether or not spending $100 returns at least $100 in business value.

Right?

KronisLV an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> This is the rugpull that is starting to push me to reconsider my use of Claude subscriptions.

I'm still with them cause the model is good, but yes, I'm noticing my limits burning up somewhat faster on the 100 USD tier, I bet the 20 USD tier is even more useless.

I wouldn't call it a rugpull, since it seems like there might be good technical reasons for the change, but at the same time we won't know for sure if they won't COMMUNICATE that to us. I feel like what's missing is a technical blog post that tells uz more about the change and the tokenizer, although I fear that this won't be done due to wanting to keep "trade secrets" or whatever (the unfortunate consequence of which is making the community feel like they're being rugpulled).

rimliu 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

20 USD tier was useless from the start. You'd get to the limit in 30 minutes. Codex with 20 USD on the other hand...

londons_explore 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think an LLM that is a decent chunk smarter/better than other LLM's ought to be able to charge a premium perhaps 10x or 100x it's competitors.

See for example the price difference between taking a taxi and taking the bus, or between hiring a real lawyer Vs your friend at the bar who will give his uninformed opinion for a beer.

teaearlgraycold 6 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For now you can run /model claude-opus-4-6

DeathArrow 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Quality of answers from quantized models is noticeable worse than using the full model.

You'll be better using Qwen 3.6 Plus through Alibaba coding plan.