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varispeed 3 hours ago

Interesting that people immediately think of workarounds instead of rejecting the governments and corporations behind the thing. Year by year Overton Window moves, workarounds become more and more involved and eventually people will give up and become just living datapoints on corporate/government dashboard.

matheusmoreira 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Rejecting the government is insurrection, it's the same as becoming a terrorist.

d0mine 34 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

You are called terrorist only until you win then you are a freedom fighter.

You even may be called freedom fighter from the start if you are trying to displace government in the right country. There are plenty of examples.

steve1977 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A terrorist works with terror (fear).

Also at least in democracies you can reject the government without physical violence.

matheusmoreira an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> A terrorist works with terror (fear).

Extreme, yet I can't deny its effectiveness. How do you radicalize a decadent, apathetic population? People who literally do not give a shit about important issues because they have too much to lose, because they'd have to give up their comfortable lifestyles? Terrorists attack them directly, breaking the illusion that their almighty governments can protect them. They gave up all those freedoms, paid all those taxes, sacrificed their principles, all in the name of security... Only to discover they aren't safe at all. Quite ironic, really. No wonder governments worldwide are willing to pull out all the stops against terrorists.

> Also at least in democracies you can reject the government without physical violence.

Doubt. To me it seems democracies exist just to give people the illusion of choice, not to give them any real power. The reality is people are manipulated by the mass media, their very wants and desires are shaped by it. Censorship is growing world wide, even in "democratic" governments, because they want to reserve the right to shape the population's collective mind. And when even that fails, it turns out every politician answers to the corporations anyway. They literally buy laws via lobbyists. If by some miracle some law gets passed to benefit people at the expense of corporations, the lobbyists swoop in and neuter it with hidden loopholes and fine print.

coliveira 12 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> in democracies you can reject the government

No, you cannot. You can reject the current party, but the government is much more than that. In the US, for example, the government is a set of institutions that were put in power in the American revolution. If you try to reject this your own life is at risk.

varispeed 31 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Learn about the origin of word terrorism (hint: it was term for rogue government acting against its peoples)