| ▲ | estetlinus 3 hours ago |
| Yeah, +1. I will never be working on unsolved problems anyhow. Skill atrophy is not happening if you stay curious and responsible. |
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| ▲ | stringfood 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I have never learned so quickly in my entire life than to post a forum thread in its entirety into a extended think LLM and then be allowed to ask free form questions for 2 hours straight if I want to. Having my questions answered NOW is so important for me to learn. Back in the day by the time I found the answer online I forgot the question |
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| ▲ | lobf 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Same. I work in the film industry, but I’ve always been interested in computers and have enjoyed tinkering with them since I was about 5. However, coding has always been this insurmountably complicated thing- every time I make an effort to learn, I’m confronted with concepts that are difficult for me to understand and process. I’ve been 90% vibe coding for a year or so now, and I’ve learned so much about networking just from spinning up a bunch of docker containers and helping GPT or Claude fix niggling issues. I essentially have an expert (well, maybe not an expert but an entity far more capable than I am on my own) who’s shoulder I can look over and ask as many questions I want to, and who will explain every step of the process to me if I want. I’m finally able to create things on my computer that I’ve been dreaming about for years. |
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| ▲ | idopmstuff 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Some people talk like skill atrophy is inevitable when you use LLMs, which strikes me as pretty absurd given that you are talking about a tool that will answer an infinite number of questions with infinite patience. I usually learn way more by having Claude do a task and then quizzing it about what it did than by figuring out how to do it myself. When I have to figure out how to do the thing, it takes much more time, so when I'm done I have to move on immediately. When Claude does the task in ten minutes I now have several hours I can dedicate entirely to understanding. |
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| ▲ | onemoresoop 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You lose some, you win some. The win could be short-term much higher, however imagine that the new tool suddenly gets ragged pulled from under your feet. What do you do then? Do you still know how to handle it the old way or do you run into skill atrophy issues? I’m using Claude/Codex as well, but I’m a little worried that the environment we work in will become a lot more bumpy and shifty. | | |
| ▲ | visarga 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > the new tool suddenly gets ragged pulled from under your feet If that happened at this point, it would be after societal collapse. | | |
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| ▲ | hdjrudni an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The "infinite patience" thing I find particularly interesting. Every now and then I pause before I ask an LLM to undo something it just did or answer something I know it answered already, somewhere. And then I remember oh yeah, it's an LLM, it's not going to get upset. | |
| ▲ | dlopes7 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Asking infinite questions about something does not make you good at “doing” that thing, you get pretty good at asking questions | |
| ▲ | techpression an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Understanding is not learning. Zero effort gives zero rewards, I ask Claude plenty of things, I get answers but not learnings. |
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| ▲ | bdangubic 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I used to speak Russian like I was born in Russia. I stopped talking Russian … every day I am curious ans responsible but I can hardly say 10 words in Russian today. if you don’t use it (not just be curious and responsible) you will lose it - period. |
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| ▲ | thih9 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Programming language is not just syntax, keywords and standard libraries, but also: processes, best practices and design principles. The latter group I guess is more difficult to learn and harder to forget. | | |
| ▲ | bdangubic an hour ago | parent [-] | | I respectfully completely disagree. not only will you just as easily lose thr processed, best practices and design principles but they will be changing over time (what was best practice when I got my first gig in 1997 is not a best practice today (even just 4-5 years ago not to go all the back to the 90’s)). all that is super easy to both forget and lose unless you live it daily |
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