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ljm 4 hours ago

Not so much atrophy as apathy.

I've worked with people who will look at code they don't understand, say "llm says this", and express zero intention of learning something. Might even push back. Be proud of their ignorance.

It's like, why even review that PR in the first place if you don't even know what you're working with?

psygn89 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I cringed when I saw a dev literally copy and paste an AI's response to a concern. The concern was one that had layers and implications to it, but instead of getting an answer as to why it was done a certain way and to allay any potential issues, that dev got a two paragraph lecture on how something worked on the surface of it, wrapped in em dashes and joviality.

A good dev would've read deeper into the concern and maybe noticed potential flaws, and if he had his own doubts about what the concern was about, would have asked for more clarification. Not just feed a concern into AI and fling it back. Like please, in this day and age of AI, have the benefit of the doubt that someone with a concern would have checked with AI himself if he had any doubts of his own concern...

oremj 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is this the same subset of people who copy/paste code directly from stack overflow without understanding ? I’m not sure this is a new problem.

foobarchu 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's a new problem in the sense that now executive management at many (if not most) software companies is pushing for all employees to work this way as much as possible. Those same people probably don't know what stack overflow even is.

pizza234 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In my experience, no - I think the ability to build more complete features with less/little/no effort, rather than isolated functions, is (more) appealing to (more) developers.

dingaling 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's difficult to copy & paste an entire app from Stack Overflow

malnourish 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think so. I'll spend a ton of time and effort thinking through, revising, and planning out the approach, but I let the agent take the wheel when it comes to transpiling that to code. I don't actually care about the code so long as it's secure and works.

I spent years cultivating expertise in C++ and .NET. And I found that time both valuable and enjoyable. But that's because it was a path to solve problems for my team, give guidance, and do so with both breadth and depth.

Now I focus on problems at a higher level of abstraction. I am certain there's still value in understanding ownership semantics and using reflection effectively, but they're broadly less relevant concerns.

mlvljr 2 hours ago | parent [-]

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sroussey 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Copied and pasted without noting the license that stack overflow has on code published there, no doubt

trinsic2 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Hey. I resemble that remark sometimes!! quit being a hater (sarcasm) :P

kilroy123 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We've had such developers around, long before LLMs.

ohazi 3 hours ago | parent [-]

They're so much louder now, though.

RexM 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s a lot like someone bragging that they’re bad at math tossing around equations.

monkpit 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If I wanted to know what the LLM says, I would have asked it myself, thanks…

redanddead 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What is it in the broader culture that's causing this?

groundzeros2015 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

People who got into the job who don’t really like programming

drivebyhooting 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I like programming, but I don’t like the job.

groundzeros2015 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Then why are you letting Claude do the fun part?

root_axis an hour ago | parent [-]

Obviously, the fun part is delivering value for the shareholders.

mattgreenrocks 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

These people have always existed. Hell, they are here, too. Now they have a new thing to delegate responsibility to.

And no, I don't understand them at all. Taking responsibility for something, improving it, and stewarding it into production is a fantastic feeling, and much better than reading the comment section. :)