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bluefirebrand 4 hours ago

> I am learning at an incredible rate with LLMs

Could you do it again without the help of an LLM?

If no, then can you really claim to have learned anything?

Paradigma11 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

So, you havent really learned anything from any teacher if you could not do it again without them?

sho_hn an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yes.

falkensmaize 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I mean...yeah?

If your child says they've learned their multiplication tables but they can't actually multiply any numbers you give them do they actually know how to do multiplication? I would say no.

Jweb_Guru an hour ago | parent [-]

For some reason people are perfectly able to understand this in the context of, say, cursive, calculator use, etc., but when it comes to their own skillset somehow it's going to be really different.

UncleMeat an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes that's exactly right.

techpression an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

That would be the definition of learning something, yes.

tossandthrow 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I could definitely maintain the infrastructure without an llm. Albeit much slower.

And yes. If LLMs disappear, then we need to hire a lot of people to maintain the infrastructure.

Which naturally is a part of the risk modeling.

bluefirebrand 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> I could definitely maintain the infrastructure without an llm

Not what I asked, but thanks for playing.

tossandthrow 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You literally asked that question

> Could you do it again without the help of an LLM?

bluefirebrand an hour ago | parent [-]

And the question you answered was "could you maintain it without the help of an LLM"

danw1979 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think this is a bit dismissive.

It’s quite possible to be deep into solving a problem with an LLM guiding you where you’re reading and learning from what it says. This is not really that different from googling random blogs and learning from Stack Overflow.

Assuming everyone just sits there dribbling whilst Claude is in YOLO mode isn’t always correct.

subscribed 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>> I am learning a new skill with instructor at an incredible rate

> Could you do it again on your own?

Can you you see how nonsensical your stance is? You're straight up accusing GP of lying they are learning something at the increased rate OR suggesting if they couldn't learn that, presumably at the same rate, on they own, they're not learning anything.

That's not very wise to project your own experiences on others.

sroussey 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Actually, it’s much like taking a physics or engineering course, and after the class being fully able to explain the class that day, and yet realize later when you are doing the homework that you did not actually fully understand like you thought you did.

_blk 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The challenge is not if you could do all of it without AI but any of it that you couldn't before.

Not everyone learns at the same pace and not everyone has the same fault tolerance threshold. In my experiencd some people are what I call "Japanese learners" perfecting by watching. They will learn with AI but would never do it themselves out of fear of getting something wrong while they understand most of it, others that I call "western learners" will start right away and "get their hands dirty" without much knowledge and also get it wrong right away. Both are valid learning strategies fitting different personalities.