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panick21_ 7 hours ago

Funny how people always endlessly worry about water supply, its one of those things that is very easy to claim but very hard to prove an in 99.9% of times there really isn't an issue.

bluefirebrand 7 hours ago | parent [-]

People can live without a high speed train. They cannot live without a clean water supply

Seems to me that the priorities are correct

panick21_ 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Ok but here is the thing, Japan had great civil engineering for 100 years, they have made lots and lots and lots of tunnels. Japan overall has fantastic water quality and is globally known for clean and safe bathrooms.

So the argument that 'new train X will destroy the water supply' really needs to be based on a whole stack of good evidence.

kdheiwns 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Japan has some of the most horrific pollution disasters of the 20th century and had tremendously polluted water. The clean Japan thing is only true because Japan got very serious about safety after companies were ignoring issues and polluting water.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Big_Pollution_Diseases_of...

And I don't even get the clean bathrooms connection. Sounds like a random TikTok meme with zero relevance. Half the bathrooms don't even have soap.

pibaker 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

> And I don't even get the clean bathrooms connection

It's simple. If it is Japan, someone will glaze it.

mmooss 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The burden of proof should be on not contaminating the water supply. That is too dangerous to risk.

> Japan had great civil engineering for 100 years, they have made lots and lots and lots of tunnels. Japan overall has fantastic water quality ...

Does it? And if so, maybe that's because they make sure projects like this one don't contaminate the water supply.

> ... globally known for clean and safe bathrooms

What does this have to do with water supply? One suspects that you know very little if that's the best evidence you have.

panick21_ 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe if the only person that thinks that the water supply is being destroyed is a local politician with a massive axe to grind who is trying to extort a local stop, then maybe we should question that over the engineers who have built tunnels their whole lives.

This is specially true when these tunnel goes along many different areas and seemingly the only that complains and believes is unsafe is also the one that is trying to get a transit station in the district.

I'm sure they have plenty of evidence on why it is safe, like historical examples and such. But how do you 'prove' this to a point a politician can't just say, sure its 99.9999% safe but we can't risk it.

> What does this have to do with water supply? One suspects that you know very little if that's the best evidence you have.

The point is that Japan tends to take safety and cleanness very seriously. And they have built many train-lines and tunnels.

At one point to you personally consider the source of a claim?

kjs3 3 hours ago | parent [-]

At one point to you personally consider the source of a claim?

You like to throw around assertions like "99.9% of times there really isn't an issue" with absolutely zero proof, but have a big problem with someone saying "I don't agree". I don't think you understand what sources, claims and truth actually mean.

delfinom 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Hard to imagine how a train that has no emissions itself as its catenary powered causes your water supply to be unclean.

Avicebron 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

pretty sure it's the tunneling not the train itself

thfuran 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Trains bring people who drink water.

eudamoniac 7 hours ago | parent [-]

If the train doesn't make stops in your prefecture, it sure doesn't bring people.