I saved about $1200 a year by moving from AWS to Hetzner. Can’t recommend it enough. AWS has kind of become a scam.

▲ acdha 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That’s like saying Mercedes is a scam because you’re fine with a Honda Civic. It’s a totally legitimate preference but not being in the target market doesn’t make something a scam.

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alternatex 5 hours ago | parent [-]

AWS ain't no Mercedes. Mercedes feels premium and isn't full of bugs.

AWS and Azure a charging an arm and a leg, but the offered quality is mostly perceived. Most of the bits and bobs they charge for are not providing much value for a vast majority of businesses. I won't even go over the complete lack of ergonomics with their portals.

	▲	DaedalusII 5 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		mercedes and honda interior almost indistinguishable now and mercedes is just like aws in dumb charges. new tires, EUR1000+ for set. replace car keys? EUR1000+
	▲	rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		>Mercedes feels premium and isn't full of bugs Maaan, I have some bad news for you...
	▲	rpcope1 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> Mercedes feels premium and isn't full of bugs. I see you've never actually owned or worked on a German car, especially in relation to even modest Japanese models. Maybe they were a little nicer inside in the 80s and maybe 90s, but "German car" and frankly "European make" is basically synonymous with "big expensive pile of shit that's an expensive pain in the ass when things start falling apart (which they seem to with increasing rapidity)." It's like the disease that plagued British cars for the longest time got contaminated with the German propensity to build overly complex monstrosities.

▲ subscribed 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Scam? You mostly get what you pay for.

Sure, it cost me £6/mo to serve ONE lambda on AWS (and perhaps 500 requests per month). Sure it was awesome and "proper". But crazy expensive.

I host it now (and 5 similar things) for free on Cloudflare.

But if you need what AWS provides, you'll get that. And that means sometimes it's not the most cost-effective place.

	▲	wiether 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		`> Sure, it cost me £6/mo to serve ONE lambda on AWS (and perhaps 500 requests per month)` I went on pricing calculator, and to arrive at $6/mo with only 500 requests, you'd need to run the lambda for 15 minutes with 2Gb of RAM. On the other hand, we have dozens production workloads on Lambda handling thousands of requests daily and we spend like $50/mo on Lambda. I'm really intrigued by what you did to get to those figures!

▲ PunchyHamster 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The pricing was always like that. You pay premium for availability of the big spread of cloud services

▲ steve1977 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hetzner Cloud or their VPS offerings?

▲ nixpulvis 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Anything worse about the service?

▲ delfinom 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Each has their trade offs. AWS absolutely has a high premium but Hetzner has some quirks.

Recently we had several of our VMs offline because they apparently have these large volume storage pools they were upgrading and suddenly disks died in two large pools. It took them 3 days to resolve.

Hetzner has no integrated option to backup volumes and its roll your own :/ You also can't control volume distribution on their storage nodes for redundancy.

▲ faangguyindia 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

it's not scam, it's like Casino House. Everything is designed to pull your money and make you believe that you are benefiting from it.

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richwater 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Your thesis is that everyone who uses AWS is being duped...?

	▲	faangguyindia 6 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		No, they just don't know what value AWS provides. And honestly you'll never know until you roll out your own Dedicated servers and later you'll wonder why you never did it sooner.
	▲	rolymath 6 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Probably most are overpaying. Cloud used to be marketed for scalability. "Netflix can scale up when people are watching, and scale down at night". Then the blogosphere and astroturfing got everyone else on board. How can $5 on amazon get you less than what you got from almost any VPS (VDS) provider 10 years ago?

▲ Silhouette 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think it's fair to call AWS a scam. It's complicated and powerful and it charges a lot for many services compared to a DIY approach. But you can see the prices transparently on its site, it provides a free tier to try most services out, it is fairly good about long term support for services and how it handles forced upgrades when they become necessary, and generally it has an OK reputation for customer support even if something unexpected and very bad happens. You're certainly paying a price for the convenience and the brand but I don't think that's a scam if you're making an informed choice. If you want to save money then you can replace RDS with Postgres running on VMs but the trade off is then you have to manage your database infrastructure yourself.

▲ echelon 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

AWS has always been a scam.

It's worse than Oracle and they don't even use lawyery contracts.

The technology itself is the tendrils.