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keybored 3 hours ago

> Having grown up in Norway and seen first hand how it was treated that way.

In Oslo.

> I don't like Nynorsk, sure,

That’s not what respect or disrespect is about.

> but that has zero relevance to the point I made,

No. The relevance is what I stated, in the next sentence that you did not quote.

> which was if anything a

What I questioned was its truthfulness. Not what kind of person would say it.

> You seem to think that I am suggesting that makes one better than the other, or that it should be that way.

I did not state or think that you were making a normative statement.

> But it was very much the case up until at least the 1980's that Bokmål was treated more favourably than Nynorsk in all kinds of contexts. ...

Being used more including being dictated from some top-down direction does not necessarily have anything to do with prestige and could be entirely prosaic.

vidarh an hour ago | parent [-]

> What I questioned was its truthfulness

You can question the truthfulness all you want.

It doesn't change the fact that this has been a well established aspect of the language struggle in Norway for well over a century, to the point that when I went to school it was even covered in history lessons.

I'm mystified with how you are ignorant of this. Bokmål has it's origin firmly in being derived from Danish via Riksmål, as based on how the elites spoke.

The spread of Bokmål was a direct consequence of its prestige as a consequence of for a very long time being the favoured written language of the elite, leading to adoption even in areas where the spoken dialect was closer to Nynorsk.

keybored an hour ago | parent [-]

Prestige = elite strata. That answers my question.

vidarh 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yes, coming from the elite strata is and has objectively been considered signifiers of high status and prestige in most societies throughout human history.

I sense that you are trying to imply that I am applying some kind of value judgement in recognising what people have historically found prestigiuous.

If so you are completely missing the point.

keybored 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

That the elite strata is prestigious according to History is tautological considering what History is.

vidarh 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

Of course that is not at all what I wrote.