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direwolf20 3 hours ago

America has never been that. With everyone having access to apps like TikTok, the brainwashing stopped working as well and people can see that it isn't.

JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> with everyone having access to apps like TikTok, the brainwashing stopped

The ad-powered social media addiction stopped brainwashing?

direwolf20 3 hours ago | parent [-]

TikTok was a Chinese app that had no qualms against showing Americans what their country does.

JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> TikTok was a Chinese app that had no qualms against shooting Americans what their country does

If one wanted deeply pessimistic takes on America and Americans, there has been a media market for that since at least the advent of cable news. Mistaking TikTok, one expression of a phenomenon, for the general trend is mistaking a tree for a forest.

iamnothere 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There has historically been a lot of US-critical content manufactured by the US, which normally deflects criticism towards individual failings, external enemies, or surrogate political effigies. A few examples: Falling Down, Bulworth, American Beauty, all the other 90s/00s media critical of suburbia, 24, The Daily Show. Most of these are left-coded, I’m not as familiar with the right-coded stuff (I usually tuned it out) but from what I can tell it’s usually aimed against foreigners and weak/effiminate liberals. 2010s/20s race activism made “white people” into the effigy for the first time, but that’s still a deflection.

Pre-sale TikTok was the first time that a mirror was held up to US politics from a global perspective, where the masses could get a less fitered and channeled understanding of how they are seen by the world. (Reddit provided this previously but it has fewer users and less impact.)

As much as I hate TikTok and short videos, it had a big impact. There’s a reason that they forced the sale. Domestic control of mass media consumption is the primary method by which public opinion is shaped within the US.

keybored an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Cable News America-criticism? Is that when a gaggle of millionaires complain about either the racists in Middle America/how liberals smell like Europeans? Then someone blurts out, Dangit, We’re Americans, We’ve been slipping these pasts five minutes at being the bravest and most freedom-loving people, God Bless. To roaring or prompted applause.

forgetfreeman 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

America has absolutely been all of that and more within living memory. The problem is it's getting to the point where you need to be pushing 50 to remember a time when this was the case.