> LLMs are absolutely causing us to lose something very important

The time wasted thinking our craft matters more than solving real world problems?

The amount of ceremony we're giving bugs here is insane.

Paraphrasing some of y'all,

> "I don't have to spend a day stepping through with a debugger hoping to repro"

THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM!

We're turning sand into magic, making the universe come alive. It's as if we just got electricity and the internet and some of us are still reminiscing about whale blubber smells and chemical extraction of kerosene.

The job is to deliver value. Not miss how hard it used to be and how much time we wasted finding obscure cache invalidation bugs.

Only algorithms and data structures are pure. Your business logic does not deserve the same reverence. It will not live forever - it's ephemeral, to solve a problem for now. In a hundred years, we'll have all new code. So stop worrying and embrace the tools and the speed up.

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Trasmatta 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> The time wasted thinking our craft matters more than solving real world problems?

This is both a strawman and a false dichotomy.

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echelon 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean to cause a stir! Let me invoke every logical fallacy and dirty rhetorical device I can if it draws attention.

Too many of our engineering conversations are dominated by veneration of the old. Let me be hyperbolic so that I can interrupt your train of thought and say this:

We're starting to live in the future.

Let go of your old assumptions. Maybe they still matter, but it's also likely some of them will change.

The old ways of doing things should be put under scrutiny.

In ten years we might be writing in new languages that are better suited for LLMs to manipulate. Frameworks and libraries and languages we use today might get tossed out the door.

All energy devoted to the old way of doing things is perhaps malinvested into a temporary state of affairs. Don't over-index on that.

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