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| ▲ | ggreer 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Let’s say, hypothetically, that someone has gone thousands of miles on FSD without intervening. What information would need to exist to convince you of this? | | |
| ▲ | vel0city an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | More than a random Twitter feed and a news post from a company which is known to spread lies, that's for sure. | | |
| ▲ | ggreer an hour ago | parent [-] | | How about if a guy who wrote an article titled Five Things My Roomba Does Better Than My Tesla[1] later drove across the country without intervening?[2] Unless all three people in the car are lying, it seems like an independent example of going thousands of miles without intervening. 1. https://www.thedrive.com/opinion/40604/five-things-my-roomba... 2. https://www.thedrive.com/news/a-tesla-actually-drove-itself-... | | |
| ▲ | tmule 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | That’s a terribly low bar for evidence - it’s deciding to pick whatever self-reported data confirms your priors.
Far more than 3 individuals believed that Ivermectin cured them of COVID - I, however, chose to not believe them and get vaccinated instead.
FWIW, my experience with FSD on HW4 is that I don’t need to intervene roughly for a 100ish miles on a clear day on a freeway without construction or accidents. That’s good enough for me to subscribe during roadtrips, but Musk and his legion of supporters is overselling capabilities - as usual. | |
| ▲ | vel0city 32 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Both are deeply knowledgeable about Tesla’s Full-Self Driving suite and Roy stressed that he couldn’t have completed the trip without them. Totally fully self driving even though you need not one, not two, but three autonomous driving experts with you. And be sure to have a second car with you when your first autonomous vehicle strands you. Sure sounds like a reliable system ready for the masses to use on public roadways! | | |
| ▲ | ggreer 9 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I think you misread the article. The stranding was because they left a place without one of the passengers and had to go back to get him. It had nothing to do with autonomous driving. I’m not sure what help the autonomous driving experts added beyond recommending cleaning the cameras at each stop. None of them work for Tesla, and it’s not like they could tweak the software along the way. I’m not making any claims about FSD’s safety or how ready it is for mass usage on public roads. I am trying to figure out what information would convince you that someone has used FSD for thousands of miles without intervening. Does this count or not? If not, why? |
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| ▲ | ImPostingOnHN an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | The verified, raw data of at least 1,000 other people's worth of data, so the data has a chance of being statistically significant, rather than 1 random dude out of billions posting on the car company CEO's website (on which said CEO is infamous for moderating content to suit his views and ego). |
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