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porridgeraisin 6 hours ago

What kind of research happens outside academia-attached labs like JPL and outside MIC firms like lockheed/boeing?

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robotresearcher 15 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Ingenuity (Mars helicopter) had researchers at Ames and Langley Research Centers, for example. Super cool IMHO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingenuity_(helicopter)

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OhMeadhbh 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There are a fair number of engineers at centers (Stennis, Ames, Kennedy, etc.) that are government employees. When I was NASA-adjacent, it seemed they wrote the specs and testing regimes. I think the government even did some of the testing with government-employed test engineers and technicians. But yeah, a lot of the manufacturing is done by contractors.

There's a joke in the aero world that F-16s are designed by people Ph.D.'s, manufactured by people with Masters degrees, flown by people with a Batchelor's degree in History and maintained by people with a High School Diploma.

It turns out you have to make jobs for people at all levels of education and experience.

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porridgeraisin 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Makes sense. What about on the basic research side? Is that done mostly through academia grants or are there in-house folks in the centers?

	▲	jvanderbot 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Each NASA center maintains in-house engineers and scientists, if for no other reason than to oversee and critique contracted work. But in reality they do significant amounts of directed research using "burden" funded research for their on internal needs, and grant work for NASA and other agencies (like DOE). I worked at JPL, and worked with folks at Ames for various reasons. Both centers try to carve out enough internal time to research new mission concepts, new ways of accomplishing existing mission concepts, or new basic technologies that have dual use for missions/commercial appliations. All of this would qualify as basic research similar to what would happen at Caltech or Stanford, the nearby official/unofficial partners. I attended all kinds of conferences and agency-level meetings with researchers from many other agencies / nasa centers as well, all mostly aimed at finding out how to better explore space (new missions), or improve our existing exploration capabilities, either with new or by adapting existing tech. NASA has an entire reporting pipeline called "New Technology Reports" that makes all of this research immediately public, and a deep tradition of spinning off commercial businesses to carry it forward if it turns out to be a good idea.