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blitzar 4 days ago

I forget, am i meant to be shaking with rage that the EU have regulations OR that the regulations include disclosure carveouts?

TeMPOraL 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

You're supposed to go blind with rage after "the EU".

tjwebbnorfolk 4 days ago | parent [-]

I mean if you're gonna regulate, then regulate. But what's the point of making everyone do extra paperwork if there's no actual environmental effect of doing the paperwork because the big guys have loopholes

pas 4 days ago | parent [-]

While the precedent is clearly bad individual DCs don't matter, as long as the actual consumption and environmental load correctly shows up in regional stats.

As long as they pay the quotas it doesn't matter. DCs don't eat the water, people can go and take samples, measure temperature. Heck, how complicated it will be to put out a solar panel powered thermometer with a SIM card? Or set up a drone with a IR camera to fly around a DC each day? If someone wants to carry out a crusade against DCs, sure, there's plenty of precedent for that too! (see Cervantes 1605 and 1615) And of course if hedge funds want to know when to short the AI bubble they'll be doing the same anyway, so the commission should ask them to publish their data with a few months lag.

jampekka 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It's that EU has illusion of regulation that is nerfed with either loopholes or lack of enforcement.

shimman 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Nerfed carrying a lot of water here, neglecting the fact that big tech is successfully using the US federal government to threaten the whole of EU if they are slightly mean to Zuckerberg + friends.

jampekka 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

That is part of it, but e.g. GDPR enforcement has been dismal since its inception, also against European companies. E.g. "Pay or Okay" is widespread, although it's clearly illegal.

https://noyb.eu/en/noybs-pay-or-okay-report-how-companies-ma...

voidfunc 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean, thats the deal Europe signed up for after WW2.

tjwebbnorfolk 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Yea, regulation with no effect is just extra paperwork for no reason