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rogerrogerr 9 hours ago

The world has been blessed by two connected things:

1. Smart people have economic opportunities that align them away from being evil

2. People who are evil tend not to be smart.

We're breaking both of these assumptions.

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chrisweekly 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"Smart people have economic opportunities that align them away from being evil"

For some definition of evil, some of the time, ok. But as economic opportunities compound (looking at the behavior of the ultra-rich), it seems there's at least strong correlation in the other direction, if not full-on "root of all evil" causation.

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rogerrogerr 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure, but that’s not “slaughter a stadium of people with drones” evil or “poison the water supply” evil or “take out unprotected electrical substations” evil.

So much infrastructure is very soft because the evil people aren’t smart enough to conceive of or conduct an attack.

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fwip 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I think you might find that, if you reconsider who the 'evil' people are, you might find that we're already doing that sort of thing.

	▲	Jensson 13 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Its not capitalists doing that though, its politicians, and politicians in non capitalist countries tend to be more evil.

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JohnMakin 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> 1. Smart people have economic opportunities that align them away from being evil

for now

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Der_Einzige 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Good. This is how we will force the world to reckon with the isolated, the disgruntled, and "lone wolf" terrorist. Real "sigma males" actually exist, and when they decide "society has to pay" we are all worse off for it. If Ted Kaczynski (quintessential example of a real actual sigma) had been in his prime operating right now, he'd have mail-bombed NeurIPS and ICLR already. I'm not cool with being in crowds of AI professionals right now for physical security reasons given the extreme anti-AI sentiment that exists from nearly everyone outside of the valley: https://jonready.com/blog/posts/everyone-in-seattle-hates-ai...

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malcolmgreaves 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That’s not quite true. Take a look at all the billionaires destroying society. Being evil is the surest way to get to get rich. In fact it’s the only way to amass that level of capital: there’s no ethical billionaire.

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mikek 7 hours ago | parent [-]

This feels like a wild overgeneralization. People can become rich without resorting to evil methods, especially now with global markets and software. Case in point: Minecraft was wildly successful, and now Notch is a billionaire.

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hxugufjfjf 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Eeeeh not the best example maybe?

	▲	orneryostrich 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Pre-wealth, Notch was friendly, kind, and downright jolly! Even as he started to accumulate wealth, he was donating huge sums of money to various indie games. Whenever a Humble Bundle dropped he would top the leaderboard for the amount he paid for the games. Things took a major turn for the worse after the acquisition and after he left Mojang. That's when he ran out of purpose and turned to drugs and conspiracy theories.