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nehal3m 8 hours ago

You’re equivocating, your parent specifically named an example of toxic individualism, they did not say or imply that individualism is toxic.

1234letshaveatw 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I guess, if you feel that freedom of movement is insignificant

lamasery 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Exactly, that's why fostering an environment where most people can walk out their front door and get to most of what they need day-to-day pretty fast without having to own a car is so important. Freedom of movement.

Increased car ownership & use, and increased design of environments to cater to cars, greatly harms that freedom.

Ever checked into a hotel somewhere in city-sprawl, looked at your map to find a local shop to pick up some cable you forgot or a toothbrush or to get some dinner, and realized that despite those things being within half a mile you can't realistically walk to them because there's a highway between you and them, so you're stuck unless you pay someone with a car to drive you? Doesn't feel very free.

SpicyLemonZest 7 hours ago | parent [-]

> Ever checked into a hotel somewhere in city-sprawl, looked at your map to find a local shop to pick up some cable you forgot or a toothbrush or to get some dinner, and realized that despite those things being within half a mile you can't realistically walk to them because there's a highway between you and them, so you're stuck unless you pay someone with a car to drive you? Doesn't feel very free.

I've never had this happen, no. The closest I've ever gotten was in Tokyo, when I had the store I needed in eyesight across the street but had to go very far out of my way to a pedestrian bridge to get there.

lamasery 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Huh, I doubt I've averaged more than two hotel-stays per year over my life and it's happened to me several times, something like "well there are 10 restaurants within easy walking distance as the crow flies, and man that Indian joint looks good, or maybe that gyro place, but oh no, I can't actually get to any of them except... god damnit, McDonalds."

nradov 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Experienced travelers know how to look at a map and make a reservation at a hotel near amenities they want. For example, I sometimes like to go run a few miles in the morning so I'll pick a hotel near a running trail or at least safe sidewalks. And if you're staying somewhere remote then you'll need a rental car to get there anyway so you can always drive to a restaurant.

kraquepype 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The thing is, you have LESS freedom of movement in a car dependent society.

You lose that freedom of movement if:

Your car breaks down

Your car gets stolen

Your car gets totaled

You lose your license

You can't afford insurance

You get too sick to drive

You lose bodily mobility

Your mental faculties decline

If you can't drive, you have to depend on whatever public options there are around you. Good luck.