> that he can improve the ecosystem for everyone using it [...] to ask me to consider his products with it only taking one minute for me to opt out

Seems you misunderstand the issue. Anyone not deploying to Laravel Cloud but using that project seems to be impacted by this, even going so far that agents are confused about it and keeps insisting users should deploy to Laravel Cloud instead.

Maybe I'm a grumpy old developer, but that does not sound like "improve the ecosystem for everyone using it", sounds like good old spam taken to the next level.

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gjsman-1000 9 hours ago | parent [-]

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embedding-shape 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> And you're complaining it's spam that he's inconvenienced you into adding a sentence to your agents file.

I don't care how something happened, I care about the results. If you do stuff to my tooling that makes it less efficient, I'm gonna not like that, regardless how many minutes you spent on something, or if it's FOSS or not.

If you can't handle feedback from developers about what you're doing to their environment then please, do not write and publish open-source software, you'll be doing us all a favor.

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ceejayoz 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Laravel has been apparently profitable for quite some time; they've long had a paid ecosystem with things like Forge, Vapor, paid components, etc.

I don't think it's unfair to be wary of the shift to VC funding and stuff like this that really feels like it wouldn't have been a thing prior to that.

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sixhobbits 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

He has no obligations to us as we did not pay him, but we also have the right to call out stuff we think is wrong as he didn't pay us

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gjsman-1000 9 hours ago | parent [-]

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sixhobbits 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think I'm saying the opposite on point 3. He has no _obligation_ to us and has full rights to 'take away' as he sees fit, but we still have the right to give our opinion about that process, and to make comparisons and contrasts with other similar products that are run differently

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embedding-shape 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you think somehow publishing FOSS means you get some right to decide how people use it, or anything besides the licensing of the code, you severely misunderstand what exactly FOSS is about.

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cwillu 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you don't like it, don't release software under that license.

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diehunde 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You should use seconds to make it even more dramatic