These are not autocomplete models. It’s built to be used with an agentic coding harness like Pi or OpenCode.

zackangelo 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They are but the IDE needs to be integrated with them.

Qwen specifically calls out FIM (“fill in the middle”) support on the model card and you can see it getting confused and posting the control tokens in the example here.

	▲	sosodev 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Oh, that’s interesting. Thanks for the correction. I didn’t know such heavily post trained models could still do good ol fashion autocomplete.

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JokerDan 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And even of those models trained for tool calling and agentic flows, mileage may vary depending on lots of factors. Been playing around with smaller local models (Anything that fits on 4090 + 64gb RAM) and it is a lottery it seems on a) if it works at all and b) how long it will work for.

Sometimes they don't manage any tool calls and fall over off the bat, other times they manage a few tool calls and then start spewing nonsense. Some can manage sub agents fr a while then fall apart.. I just can't seem to get any consistently decent output on more 'consumer/home pc' type hardware. Mostly been using either pi or OpenCode for this testing.