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literalAardvark 4 hours ago

I've been there. Management was fine with the testing but it added too much overhead for nearly no benefit to us.

One more thing to troubleshoot at 3 am, one more thing to teach to a disinterested tier 1 support team, one more thing for Chrome to be weird about, hundreds more rules to manage in a hostile load balancer, logging tools that don't understand ipv6.

Turned it off. End customer asked why the site got a little slower (CGN) and when we can turn ipv6 back on. As far as I know it's still on the backlog.

jeroenhd 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

One of the big challenges with IPv6 remains that many of the knows-just-enough-about-networking people, like support staff, often never received any IPv6 training (or, for that matter, even enough IPv4 training that they don't need to Google things that come up in real life). Another is that the weird, awful, everyone-hostile corporate "solutions" often break IPv6 in stupid ways (like load balancers and logging tools being unable to cope with minor changes and requiring a full configuration rework).

Things have definitely gotten better over time, though. The massive 90s style corporate networks will probably never transition, but smaller and more modern companies don't have that issue.

Apple mandating that apps are IPv6 compatible and various government legislation forcing companies to make their shitty middleware IPv6-compatible has improved things quite a bit so far. As uptake keeps rising, the need for technologies like STUN and TURN will slowly start decreasing, and as a result more and more people will end up in "untested" situations where not having IPv6 and falling back to legacy paths starts becoming a problem.

GoblinSlayer 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

A networking dude (he clutched his smartphone all the time) typed "spedtes" in my browser and was deeply confused when the server wasn't found. He tried several times more with slightly different spelling to the same effect, he literally couldn't even what went wrong.

throw0101a 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Facebook is (AIUI) 100% IPv6-only on their internal network, and has been for many years:

* https://engineering.fb.com/2017/01/17/production-engineering...

* https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2014/09/facebook-launch...

IPv4 is actually the "leftover" stuff they have to deal with at the front end.

But they are an eye-balls heavy service, with a lot of mobile devices, which also tend to be IPv6-native.

tialaramex 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It also just takes actual policy will. Somebody has to actually say "No" when the supplier who promised an IPv6 product says afterwards actually they meant IPv6 "ready" and they should have put an asterisk because really only the next version will be "ready", and er, so the product they've delivered doesn't actually work with IPv6 but that's fine right?

"No". Not every human is psychologically prepared to do that. They want to acquiesce, to go along to get along, you need somebody to be firm. "No".

m-s-y 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I have found that it is incredibly satisfying to whip out the “no” card.

I have also found that an uncomfortable number of people do not consider it appropriate in any way shape or form. Even when it’s ultimately your call and no one else’s.

Folks don’t really like waves. They like looking at them from the shore, but freak out when it’s their turn to hang 10

lazide 42 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Just wait until someone starts remembering the other archaic terms like ‘fraud’, ‘indictment’, etc.