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bryanrasmussen 3 hours ago

since the suggestion is that the new security bug finding LLMs will increase protection because it will have access to the full source code then, the dark forest fear would be, if it is possible for an attacker to get all the source the attacker will be in a better position.

This seems wrong however, as it ignores the arrow of time. The full source code has been scanned and fixed for things that LLMs can find before hitting production, anyone exfiltrating your codebase can only find holes in stuff with their models that is available via production for them to attack and that your models for some reason did not find.

I don't think there is any reason to suppose non-nation state actors will have better models available to them and thus it is not a dark forest, as nation states will probably limit their attacks to specific things, thus most companies if they secure their codebase using LLMs built for it will probably be at a significantly more secure position than nowadays and, I would think, the golden age of criminal hacking is drawing to a close. This assume companies smart enough to do this however.

Furthermore, the worry about nation state attackers still assumes that they will have better models and not sure if that is likely either.

staplers 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

  I would think, the golden age of criminal hacking is drawing to a close. This assume companies smart enough to do this however.
It's rarely the systems that are the weak link, rather the humans with backdoor access.