> the biggest one

2020 had about 4 million more votes cast.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/voter-turnou...

bdangubic an hour ago | parent | next [-]

thanks for the correction, I keep forgetting just how awful 2016-2020 years were that 81 million people came out to vote for a senile grandpa (exactly the point I was making, you need strong against case much more than anything else)

	▲	rootusrootus 5 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> 81 million people came out to vote for a senile grandpa Yeah, people were getting fed up with the chaos. Biden owes his presidency to Donald Trump, for sure. He tried several times in years prior and could not win on the merits.

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SV_BubbleTime an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Weird, and why didn’t those people show up to vote for Kamala? How did Biden get more votes than Obama, but Trump won the popular vote four years later?

	▲	rootusrootus 7 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> why didn’t those people show up to vote for Kamala? Enthusiasm gap. And not during COVID. 2020 was an interesting time as you may recall. > How did Biden get more votes than Obama, but Trump won the popular vote four years later? You will be less likely to fall prey to grifters if you look past absolute numbers and realize that the voting age population tends to increase about 10 million every four years. And with turnout generally abysmal, under 60% most times, there is a lot of room for variation.