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john_strinlai 9 hours ago

just when you thought it was bad, it gets worse.

why do sales employees have access (or ability to request access) to camera feeds at all?

i would like to know what other cameras adam snow, bob carter, cameran whiteman view regularly. "search him hard drive" as the kids say.

(p.s. https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/flock-safety, sadly the "latest news" section does not have "flock sales employees caught watching kids", just hundreds of millions in funding to realize the minority report)

tclancy 8 hours ago | parent [-]

How else would they sell to additional customers if they couldn't demo random video feeds from all over?

john_strinlai 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

perhaps by setting up a dedicated "demo feed”, rather than access the cameras of live customers, like every other product that i have sat through a demo for

can you imagine sales force or dynamics poking around some random company's live data during a demo to some other company?

mixdup 8 hours ago | parent [-]

access to every camera on the system is the selling point

john_strinlai 8 hours ago | parent [-]

"our employees can watch any camera at any time" is not one of their selling points.

themafia 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I've had a few sales reps do this for products they're trying to sell us. In front of me, they've opened their laptop, with no password, then used some remote access solution to access another customers equipment, and then demonstrate functions on it.

I made a rule. If you do this I cannot possibly trust you. I will never buy your products.

It's insane to me.