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post_break 8 hours ago

Thankfully the App Store doesn't allow side loading, because it completely stops fraud like this. At least that's the number one reason why I keep getting told if we allow side loading this will happen.

victorbjorklund 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Is there more scams of web3 in the App Store or on the open internet? Not defending Apple but kind of a strawman to claim they said it stops 100% of fraud and abuse. That’s like saying seatbelts don’t work because people still get hurt in car crashes.

chocochunks 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The App Store is totally safe, so I don't need to think about what I download or do any due diligence!

nathanmills 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And don't you think its a strawman to compare only being and to install "" approved "" ($100/year for apple) software to a seatbelt? There is no use case for not wearing a seatbelt. That is not true for being able to install software.

httgbgg 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Plenty of people disagree that there is no use case to not wearing a seatbelt. That you find it impossible to imagine makes it an even better analogy actually.

array_key_first an hour ago | parent [-]

People can disagree with whatever, everyone is allowed to be stupid.

But most reasonable people agree there's no tangible use case to not wearing a seatbelt. There are infinite tangible use cases to using software outside the app store, that reasonable people can all acknowledge.

idle_zealot 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Eh, kinda a weak argument. Too easy to counter with "but sideloading would let that happen more!" That might even be right, and a difference in amount is important. There will never be a totally secure system, after all.

I think the actual problem is with how the App Store changes the way people think about and relate to software. The fact is, running code on your computer is dangerous. You are trusting it with control over its operations. The responsible thing to do is provide platform-level safeguards (permissions systems, sandboxing) and engender a general understanding that you should only run an app vetted by someone you would hand your phone to.

This is fundamentally incompatible with software as a market, of course, so this path will never be taken.

throw1234567891 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If they did, we’d be reading about such cases daily.