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Ardren 3 hours ago

> While ICE “requested” that Google not notify Thomas Johnson, the request was not enforceable or mandated by a court

Sounds like Google stopped caring.

But... Why on earth do the people filing an administrative subpoena not have to notify the interested parties too? Why is it Google's responsibility? If they didn't tell you, would you ever find out?

noselasd an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> But... Why on earth do the people filing an administrative subpoena not have to notify the interested parties too?

Generally they do - with some notable exceptions being if you're a non-citizen and you're no longer in the US, and it's either a criminal investigation or related to intelligence or national security.

GuB-42 an hour ago | parent [-]

Which is the case here:

> In September 2024, Amandla Thomas-Johnson was a Ph.D. candidate studying in the U.S. on a student visa when he briefly attended a pro-Palestinian protest.

> Weeks later, in Geneva, Switzerland

It is obviously not criminal, but I guess that you don't need much to qualify something as related to intelligence and national security, attending a pro-Palestinian protest may be enough.

titanomachy 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What do you mean? Eventually notifying him seems like the one thing Google did right here.

Ardren 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

On a scale of 1-10, Yeah, I'd give them a 1-2 for notifying him after the fact.

The problem is they tell user that they'll inform you right away and give them a chance to challenge the subpoena.

A quick search shows that they've done in the past and people have been able to get the subpoena's withdrawn.

https://thefulcrum.us/rule-of-law/us-administrative-subpoena...

subscribed an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

You give Google credit for holding someone's head above the icy lake after they pushed them into lake themselves at the request of the piranhas.