Democrats have so far not been led by the nose into bombing Iran and fucking up the global economy so I’m not sure how one can keep saying that with a straight face.

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traderj0e 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Both sides of Congress passed emergency weapons funding for Israel at the start of this war. Even if some Democrats are scoring political points complaining about it since it's during Trump's term and the war has become a stalemate, they're on board at the end of the day, like they were with Iraq (as some forget) before things unraveled. And during Biden's term, it was Gaza instead.

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wredcoll 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's pretty pathetic when the best argument you can make is a whataboutism that isn't even equivalent.

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smallmancontrov 3 hours ago | parent [-]

If "led by the nose into bombing Iran" isn't being "owned by Israel," what is?

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traderj0e 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It totally is. Democrats got led into Israel's wars too. Interestingly the support was different, like Trump got money from the Adelsons and Biden from pro-Israel lobbies.

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vel0city 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> Democrats got led into Israel's wars too.

Which ones?

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mcmcmc an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Obama's drone campaigns, although that's less a war and more just global terrorism.

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traderj0e 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Syria, Gaza, and even Iran.

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jlarocco 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Have people already forgot about Gaza?

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vel0city 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The US was involved in Gaza? The United States was actively spending billions dropping munitions there? When? Under which administration was the US directly involved in bombing Gaza?

Can you further clarify how the US was involved in the war in Gaza, and how that was the Democrats getting involved? And do you really feel that involvement was anywhere near what is happening or comparable with Iran at the moment?

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jlarocco 2 hours ago | parent [-]

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	▲	vel0city 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Its not US servicemembers pulling the trigger, its not US commanders deciding on targets, its not the POTUS starting the war. Pretty radically different things in my book. How many US servicemembers were injured or killed in the US's apparent major war with Gaza? We've spent ~$20B in grants for weapons procurement on Israel's behalf over several years, with a lot of that being defensive missile systems. I'm not a fan of us spending so much of our money on another country's military, especially when we hear over and over how we can't afford to feed kids or provide transportation to our people. But, we've spent over double than that so far in Iran in less than two months, and that's ignoring the many billions it'll cost to fix things that were destroyed so far. We're looking at the actual US cost of this war potentially reaching one trillion dollars. Its a scale that's so radically different. And also, one was in support of a country who we have defense agreements with who was attacked, and another was us deciding to go bomb a country seemingly unprovoked. Who is spreading whataboutism again?